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Scrodzilla 12-30-11 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by 8bits (Post 13657059)
new super sprint in black is all kinds of meh!

fixed.

cruiserhead 12-30-11 05:54 PM

Yeah that flat black looks great but I'm guessing that is a temporary fork just for the photo. Looks like a 1" steel fork and a 1-1/8th integrated headtube alloy frame. You're right, it would be perfect with a carbon fork.


Originally Posted by 8bits (Post 13657059)
new super sprint in black is all kinds of porn! They should offer the possibility of a carbon fork and put frame and fork weight at the product page...

http://superbbicycle.com/wp-content/...te-Black-1.jpg
http://superbbicycle.com/wp-content/...te-Black-2.jpg


Scrodzilla 12-30-11 06:07 PM

Wrong. The Sprint comes with a lugged steel fork to mimic the Cannondale Track.

http://www.pedalroom.com/bike/superb-sprint-3759

8bits 12-30-11 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 13657071)
fixed.

http://i.imgur.com/95lqs.gif

Scrodzilla 12-30-11 06:13 PM

:lol:

cruiserhead 12-30-11 07:29 PM

that's interesting, looks weird to me w/ that fork but maybe I'm used to looking at road and tt bikes and not so much track or fixed.

hairnet 12-30-11 07:33 PM

The Cannondale track is an older bike, before the dominance of threadless headsets and carbon forks

xkillemallx16 12-30-11 08:25 PM

emailed superb a while ago about just buying a fork (from the sprint) for a friend's bike that needed a lower rake with a brake hole. no response. maybe it went to their spam inbox or whatever, giving it the benefit of doubt.

their frames look nice though.

Nuggetross 12-31-11 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Morgie (Post 13655327)
If you or your friend(s) have had bad experiences with either Cambridge or Superb please feel free to contact either store by phone or email. We value customer satisfaction, and don't want anyone leaving as unhappy as you clearly were.

-Morgan
Cambridge Bicycle

don't worry, morgan. i don't have a problem with cambridge AT ALL. you guys are the ****. i just don't like jason, to be honest. and apparently some of my friends don't either (not all). i always tell my friends to go to cambridge, so you and pete can take care of them in your sexxxi arms.

JasonSuperb 01-01-12 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Nuggetross (Post 13581041)
^superb blows. for clarification, one guy owns cambridge/superb. but the superb brand is managed by someone else. if by great selection you mean wall full of b43 to formulas and service as one mechanic who spends most of his time putting tri-spokes on frames that they buy...then alright.

for more clarification:

1. refused to let my messenger/mechanic friend change a flat in the store when it was raining out (he was still on the clock)
2. refused to appraise a totaled bike when my friend got hit by a car. excuse was that they didn't want to get involved with insurance companies (cambridge obliged. but seriously? seriously? biggest dick move)
3. gave my friend a hassle about his russ denny frame/omnium incompatibility. went through same steps that friend said wouldn't work. suggested to crimp aluminum frame, like idiots. friend got it to work eventually.
4. 99% sure that the superb mechanic stole a campy super record wheelset off my friend's bike
5. refused to answer questions about superb frame sourcing, steel grade
6. scuffed my nos specialized black anodized quill stem while in for a bike repair

but sweet pics, bro.



Wow for someone who has ever made a single complaint to our shop you sure have a lot of sh*t to talk online. grade A trolling right here. And it seems like most of your complaints are from someone you know and not your own. I am sure we have made a mistake or 2, what shop hasn't, but most of the stuff you posted about us is flat our lies or slanted to make us sound like jerks.

We actually have 3 mechanics, but 1 head mechanic that does the bulk of our repairs. He actually spends most of his time doing tune ups on sub $400 commuter bikes, and maybe about .0005 percent of his time mounting tri-spokes.

1. We used to let anyone change flats on our sales floor, but almost every time it ended with someone taking apart their whole bike, blocking customers from browsing the shop, and then needing help to fix it anyway. We have a fully functional repair shop downstairs, so now we either lend basic tools to customers to take outside to work on their bikes, or they can relax on the couch and wait 5 minutes for our mechanic to do it. We have a very small shop and just don't have the space on the sales floor for repairs. Also we even offer a discount to bike messengers!!

2. We have appraised countless wrecked bikes, and still do. I think there must be more to this story.

3. I don't recall this but believe me I would never recommend anyone crimp a frame just to fit some cranks. Sram omiums aren't really adjustable so either they fit or they don't. We have done a ton of custom builds where they don't fit and the only option is to go with different cranks.

4. How could a mechanic have stolen your friends wheels? I just can't even picture how this is possible, did he come to pick up his bike after a repair and not notice it was missing it's wheels?? This is just absurd.

5. I have had many customers ask about where we build our frames and I have never said "I'm not telling" that's crazy!? Our frames are all handbuilt in a small factory in China, This factory also builds frames for some much larger Italian brands, and their quality is top notch.

6. I am sorry if your stem got scuffed, but I don't remember a complaint about this, we try to make up for any mistakes we make with our customers.

you also mentioned you specifically don't like me, but I don't even know you? Did I do something to you that I am not aware about that you felt needed to be brought up on a public forum??


As far as the tubing on the vivace, it is italian made columbus thron, however columbus has just decided to discontinue making this tubing in italy, so we are looking at other options, most likely Columbus Zona tubing. We will be starting a pre-order for the vivace frame as soon as we get the tubing spec sorted out.

Also someone asked about the forks being sold seperately, and I am sorry I didn't see that email, but we do have forks available separately so give us a call or shoot another email and we'll get it hooked up for you.

-Jason

Superb Bicycle

FakeFuji 01-01-12 06:23 PM

are you going to rip off the mash anytime soon, i want to buy one but i want someone to make it a different color/ brand first, also i'm just making fun of your buisness practices i don't intend to buy it :thumb:

JasonSuperb 01-01-12 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by FakeFuji (Post 13664184)
are you going to rip off the mash anytime soon, i want to buy one but i want someone to make it a different color/ brand first, also i'm just making fun of your buisness practices i don't intend to buy it :thumb:

No worries, don't buy one if you don't like it. But all anyone talks about these days when a new frame comes our is what other frame it looks like. Fact is, it is a bike frame, unless you get crazy they all look pretty much the same except for paint and branding. Mash wasn't the first pursuit aluminum track frame with carbon fork, and there are about 30 other lugged steel frames that look similar to the superb vivace. If you stripped the paint and pantographs off of colnago's, cinelli's, eddy merckx, de rosas, rossins, etc, I bet you wouldn't be able to say which one was which. We wanted to make some high quality track frames that would be affordable and look great, and so far beside a few snarky comments on forums we have a had a great response from our frames and we are really stoked on em.

Cheers

striknein 01-01-12 06:50 PM

Do you think you could do a fake Macaframa next? I'll be in the market in a few months.

dddavid 01-01-12 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by FakeFuji (Post 13664184)
are you going to rip off the mash anytime soon, i want to buy one but i want someone to make it a different color/ brand first, also i'm just making fun of your buisness practices i don't intend to buy it :thumb:

Strong contender for dumbest post of 2012. Nice job.

I think it's great that Jason has come here to answer questions and stand behind his shop and brand. Connecting with customers is a business practice to respect not make fun of.

carleton 01-01-12 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by JasonSuperb (Post 13664240)
No worries, don't buy one if you don't like it. But all anyone talks about these days when a new frame comes our is what other frame it looks like. Fact is, it is a bike frame, unless you get crazy they all look pretty much the same except for paint and branding. Mash wasn't the first pursuit aluminum track frame with carbon fork, and there are about 30 other lugged steel frames that look similar to the superb vivace. If you stripped the paint and pantographs off of colnago's, cinelli's, eddy merckx, de rosas, rossins, etc, I bet you wouldn't be able to say which one was which. We wanted to make some high quality track frames that would be affordable and look great, and so far beside a few snarky comments on forums we have a had a great response from our frames and we are really stoked on em.

Cheers

So you are saying that it is pure coincidence that your two frames look like blatant copies of the Cannondale Track and Cinelli Supercorsa Pista?

You are saying that you didn't set out to make copies of those very, very highly coveted, rare, and (at one time) popular frames?

An answer would be greatly appreciated.

Nagrom_ 01-01-12 07:08 PM

does the Sprint come in metallic glacier blue? just wonderin...lol

redpear 01-01-12 07:12 PM

So all I have to do is sand the paint off of my Motobecane Track and I quadruple its value?

yummygooey 01-01-12 07:18 PM

I don't understand why everyone is giving the Superb guys such a hard time. If you don't like their frames and their business practices, then don't support them with your money. Seems pretty simple to me.

xavier853 01-01-12 07:20 PM

yeah, where is the /thread button when you need it

redpear 01-01-12 07:27 PM

I don't personally have a problem with Superb, although it does bother me if they don't want to admit that their frames are essentially remakes.

It's like when the guy from Wolfmother said he didn't listen to Led Zeppelin and discounted them as an influence.

Scrodzilla 01-01-12 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by xavier853 (Post 13664388)
yeah, where is the /thread button when you need it

carleton is waiting for a response. When he gets it, we can end the thread.

EpicSchwinn 01-01-12 07:32 PM

Yet nobody is pooping on Pelizzoli
http://www.pedalroom.com/p/pelizzoli...nda-2238_1.jpg

FakeFuji 01-01-12 07:42 PM

Sorry i made everyones vaginas get sandy i just wanted to bring up a topic that bugs me, theres more than one way to skin a cat and i think its sad when a company doesnt try and make its own product but looks to what is or was popular, give me a bike that looks like a c'dale track made with a ti tubeset. Atleast then you will be enhancing the prior design not keeping it the same as in ninety duece.

cruiserhead 01-01-12 07:45 PM

Glad Cambridge and Superb posted up to get their side.

A lot of snarky comments but the truth is, most people here talk all day about bikes that are Cinelli Mash copies or other copies.
It's OK if it's Leader and not Superb?

Since I've been to both shops, I know they are good. I've been to too many bad ones and you really have to give props to ones that are doing a good job. Boston is lucky, there are a lot of shops and Cambridge is one of my fav's. I discovered Superb a bit late to really spend time there but what I saw, I liked.

Why would Superb respond to that kind of nonsense. Sorry Carleton, enjoy your posts a lot but it's just "trolling for and argument" and I hope they ignore it.

Sherblock 01-01-12 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by EpicSchwinn (Post 13664441)

I guess it's because they're custom. And italian. And (maybe just me) I feel like Superb is trying to just cash in on a fad.

All in all, I don't care and am behind the philosophy that if you don't like a company/product/person, just don't support them. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.


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