|
Whats up with those graphics on that SE, looks like something from huffy, circa 1992
|
Originally Posted by Jaytron
(Post 13980125)
Yeah, I would not want the SE because of the quill (threaded) stem, hence why my answer was Kilo TT. I don't like them, I'd avoid it if I had a choice. I guess I could have been more specific.
How is the SE frame better than the Kilo, wasn't it just discussed that they are pretty equal? Also, how is the SE more "ready to go" than the Kilo? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING TO ME BRO?! The SE is lugged and has nicer dropouts. I remember reading Scrod had one a long time ago and he said it was of relative solid quality. |
Originally Posted by TheRealFaux
(Post 13980815)
"ready to go" as far as a completed frame set since the fork/headset is already installed to the frame
The SE is lugged and has nicer dropouts. I remember reading Scrod had one a long time ago and he said it was of relative solid quality. |
Might be jumping in a little late . I believe both frames are manufactured by Maxway , maybe someone could verify ?
|
Originally Posted by EpicSchwinn
(Post 13980405)
When I was frame shopping I was frequently advised that the Kilo frameset isn't that great if you want to build a bike from the frame up. It's mainly popular because it's a good complete for a low price - the frame isn't anything that remarkable though.
What's your budget, by the way? From the choices so far, I assume you prefer steel. Consider a Rush? Cycle club sports still has some white ones for $250 (no fork included) if you're budget could work with that. There's a chance you'll get the older rush which AFAIK just has different decals and dropouts. Still, it's lightweight heat treated double butted chromoly steel (Tange Prestige) which is really nice and light tubing for the price. http://www.bti-usa.com/pictures/SF/SF3350.JPG |
Originally Posted by harrythehat
(Post 14013431)
Might be jumping in a little late . I believe both frames are manufactured by Maxway , maybe someone could verify ?
|
Originally Posted by harrythehat
(Post 14013431)
Might be jumping in a little late . I believe both frames are manufactured by Maxway , maybe someone could verify ?
|
Originally Posted by locho
(Post 14013525)
Can it fit a threaded fork from cycle club sport
|
Originally Posted by JesusBananas
(Post 13977800)
I find this meme kind of tiresome.
Although I suppose other people find it tiresome to have a constant influx of threads asking for "cheap fixies," so I dunno. Also, I had no idea that the dragon Premium Brew had a MATCHING SEAT: http://bikeisland.com/images/011711001.JPG That's . . . horrifying. Also, every time I see that bike, I feel so sad. It looks like such a nice frame, and you would think it would be cheaper to paint the bike just one color. I need that frame so it can match my pants : http://www.whatmikesaw.com/wp-conten...aver-pants.jpg |
Originally Posted by gigantor
(Post 14020129)
SWEET... GOODNESS...
I need that frame so it can match my pants : http://www.whatmikesaw.com/wp-conten...aver-pants.jpg |
They would look sick if they were skinny jeans. Just picture me doing sw8 skids or spinning fast with giant blue flames on my legs.
|
:roflmao2: :roflmao: |
1 Attachment(s)
Get your phat pants here: http://www.kustomclothing.com.my/cat...mes-p-312.html
I already placed my order for this beez: http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=242882 |
Originally Posted by broakland
(Post 14022479)
Get your phat pants here: http://www.kustomclothing.com.my/cat...mes-p-312.html
I already placed my order for this beez: http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=242882 Also, they spell "custom" with a "k." So you know it's definitely cool. :roflmao: |
|
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
(Post 14025475)
|
Originally Posted by EpicSchwinn
(Post 13980405)
When I was frame shopping I was frequently advised that the Kilo frameset isn't that great if you want to build a bike from the frame up. It's mainly popular because it's a good complete for a low price - the frame isn't anything that remarkable though.
I do not have any serious pro-Kilo arguments and this is why I'm curious what can be against.. Compare to Wabi classic and if we are talking only about weight they seemed to be very close. Kilo TT Pro is 20-20.2 lbs with clipless pedals. and w/o rear brake Wabi is 18.4 without pedals. It will be 18.9 with them. Wabi wheels are 1750g and Kilo Pro 2400g (according to the papers I will check it in couple of days). Almost 1.5 lbs xtra on Kilo just because of wheels.. Of course there are other characteristics of the frame besides weight..but how much they noticible in everyday normal riding? Of course if Wabi frame would be $200 and Kilo $150 I would go for the name...but it is not the case. |
Cuz it's practically a free frame if you buy the complete and compare to retail prices for the components.
Buying just the frame and buying components a la carte is much less of a deal. Might as well get a little better frame for a little more money if you're buying just frame. Get that Rush for $250, add a $99 fork for instance and have a nicer ride for $150 more than getting a Kilo frameset. |
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
(Post 14027261)
Cuz it's practically a free frame if you buy the complete and compare to retail prices for the components.
Buying just the frame and buying components a la carte is much less of a deal. Might as well get a little better frame for a little more money if you're buying just frame. Get that Rush for $250, add a $99 fork for instance and have a nicer ride for $150 more than getting a Kilo frameset. Let me re-phrase Kilo frame + 1700 g decent wheelset VS. Rush frame + 2400 g so-so wheelset? I will take the better wheels and save on the frame if I'm under the budget.. |
Originally Posted by justfitme
(Post 14027727)
But you have those extra $150 for the wheelset...
Let me re-phrase Kilo frame + 1700 g decent wheelset VS. Rush frame + 2400 g so-so wheelset? I will take the better wheels and save on the frame if I'm under the budget.. Rush frameset + inexpensive wheels (DP18, Sun M13, CXP22) = +$450 Add the $80 difference to your Kilo budget and you still can't really get better wheels unless you add another $100 to look at DA/Phil wheelsets. In the end the Wabi's are comparatively more associated with the inexpensive budget wheelsets than the higher-end DA/Phil wheelsets. So the question I am poking at is if you think the Rush is $80 better than the Kilo, because I feel that the Wabi's are in the same boat as every other forumla/novatec hubbed rim in the game. |
Originally Posted by TheRealFaux
(Post 14027927)
Kilo frameset + Wabi wheels = +$370
Rush frameset + inexpensive wheels (DP18, Sun M13, CXP22) = +$450 Add the $80 difference to your Kilo budget and you still can't really get better wheels unless you add another $100 to look at DA/Phil wheelsets. In the end the Wabi's are comparatively more associated with the inexpensive budget wheelsets than the higher-end DA/Phil wheelsets. So the question I am poking at is if you think the Rush is $80 better than the Kilo, because I feel that the Wabi's are in the same boat as every other forumla/novatec hubbed rim in the game. I bet that 600g of rotating weight difference on wheels is huge, compare to what we can feel on slightly different, same weighted steel framesets... |
cant buy kustom pants without kustom amps!
|
| All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:14 AM. |
Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.