This is getting to be the stupidest argument ever.

I'm going to take welding courses next semester and I would like to take Yamaguchi's frame building class in the future. I have come to feel that university is not for me

It started as the stupidest argument ever.

But now is the best friendship/bromance of all time.

I missed that part.

But I won

And you started it.

gigantor never offered to be my tandem buddy. I'm jealous of you.

I hope you'll be friends when you meet in person. It shall be a most splendid and joyous day of playing bikes.

Actually, you are arguing that a SS is more efficient on rollers in outerspace, I'm arguing that a road bike will make him less tired.

You won what? A contest of bringing in irrelevant information? Congrats.

Tell you the truth, I probably won't even remember him... WHEN HE'S DEAD.

JK we'll play paceline.

Nope. You know the argument that was presented. He'd be better off with an SS.

yee. it's my first carbon frame and I can't say that I prefer it over a couple of the alu frames i've owned. the wheels are the real deal though and all together its very light

its not as much as you might think (12.5cm). the compact frame/sloping top tube kinda plays with your eyes a little bit

Great image scrod.

Now if only nagrom will believe in science.

Which AL frames have you owned in the past? I'm considering a CAAD10 down the line if ever my BMC road racer craps out.

I was aiming it at you.

Get a used CAAD9, imho. Felt like a more forgiving frame over rough roads.

Too bad you seem to not believe in science, either. The facts were laid out, believe them or not.

Read page 3. Let me know if you have any further questions.

i had a caad8 r1000 (from 2006?) and currently own a Soul Faith w bb30. the caad8 was lighter, but they are both stiff, tight handling race bikes.

again i can't say that I prefer the blue frame

warning, welding is addictive, you'll be wanting your own machine and reading the TIG forum

I didn't realize there was a winner, that I was actively participating, or had started it. I don't care to go back and look. Do what you want, it doesn't make a difference for me.

My commute has had gnarly headwinds lately so I stopped taking the FG because I just want to spin through it

What? It's sad that you don't like reading, because then you'd realize at no point during our discussion, were you ever involved.

Again, I only set out to prove a few points based on the following :

- OP in the other thread felt single speed bikes are less tiring to him
- geared bikes are not always more efficient, or less tiring


Both can be proven through science - and it seems people here do not believe in it. They'll just shut their eyes and ears and continue the hive mentality.

You're so above us. I almost can't handle it.

Hypocrisy at its best.

If anything, the overall tone of many posts on SSFG, are that X person's style and opinions are above another's. Claiming otherwise is ridiculous.

This is the reason I appreciate this forum - that a wide range of opinions and elitism are openly welcome.

Of course! We have a dedicated "bash my bike" thread! (enter at own risk, crying not allowed)

When my bike is complete, I will post in that thread...

If people make fun of it, I will curl up in bed and cry myself to sleep.