i want to get this hubset, only thing about it is the allen bolts, can u really get these suckers mad tight?

wicked mad tight

yeah, what 165 said. i just got the paul hubs, which are very similar to the phils. they have the allen bolts and i was suprised how tight i could get them. i just got them on the bike this past weekend, but so far i haven't had any slippage.

anyone have any experience putting locking skewers in these hubs? can you get them tight enough?

thats it i'm sold .

I am picking up my phirst pair of phils on Thursday...from Bikeworks. Can't wait.

yo, i can get them hella wicked mad tight.

When I had a set I liked them just tight enough.

If it's too tight, it's hard to get it off

I actually had problems with Phil's slipping because of my chrome dropouts. I kept stripping the heads from torquing down as hard as I could. They told me they had a new product called "chrome domes" which would solve my problem which they sent.
These suckers create a much larger grabbing surface than any other hub out there. They act as a large washer which distributes the tension evenly. Call Phil's up and upgrade if you have any sort of slippage with the Phils.

how much for the chrome domes$$

That's niiice. Did I miss this in the photos thread somehow?

around $20 or something like that. They come with heavier replacement bolts. Call Phils directly and ask.

Dunno, I used a Surly Tuggnut with my Phil, zero probs.

would you need/ want these chrome domes on the front wheel?

Only if your running spinners on your ride.

You can get them tight enough, but they will eventually slip ever so slightly. I get annoyed by that so I use a tensioner to keep it slack-free (also makes it a lot easier to center when tightening because it doesn't grab and lurch forward).

As for the skewers - it's not an easy process, check this thread for more info: https://www.bikeforums.net/singlespeed-fixed-gear/63312-locking-skewers-track-bike.html

yeah ever one who rides.....phils noes they are the best in the world....yes they do cost a lot of $$$ but worth ever penny......like homie said (I'm a modern guy, I don't care much for the go-go)anyhow as you all know right now phil is making cogs???keep yr ears open...for them to be out in mouthes to come....they are the **** just like everthing phil makes.......i don't no how much they going to go for yet....when i find out i'll let you alll..........