Hey all. A saddle is one of my final purchases. I do have a cheap Velo saddle to get me going when I build everything up next week. I have my eye on a Brooks Team Pro Classic but I'm also considering VO model 1 which is very similar in dimensions but includes bag clips and is currently 60.00 vs Brooks @ 86.00. I also have the Charge spoon on my short list but at 25.00ish it's still only a 35.00 diff from the VO,model 1 not a big deal to me now that I am in spending mode..

I have read as many threads that are out there including a few semi professional reviews for on the VO but not too many comparing the 2. Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts/experiences before I push the button

https://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...e-model-1.html

https://www.retro-gression.com/produc...classic-saddle

Thanks

I went from a VO Model 6 to a Team Pro. Like the Brooks a lot better -- as it breaks in, more comfy; as I rode the VO saddle more, it got more uncomfy.

IMO: save money, time, comfort -- get the Brooks. (anyone wanna try a VO Mo. 6?)

+1

Knockoff saddles cost less for a reason.

Also in the market for a new saddle. For me, it comes down to the SI Turbo reissue, Brooks Team Pro, a higher end Si. Possibly another fizik.

I know people love their brooks, but haven't heard much of the team pro. I'd say go for it.

The Team Pro is one of Brooks' most comfortable saddles (IMO) because it allows for more saddle to bar drop than a B17 or some other models.

Exactly what I needed... a wake up call. There are many VO owners who are quite happy but nowhere near the Brooks level of satisfaction. Even if the VO is awesome, I'd probably be kicking myself for not throwing down another 26.00 for the real deal.

I have three Team Pros on bikes here, all very comfortable. My butt has been insisting that I start replacing "Turbos" with Team Pros for some reason.

So the width feels better? I was stuck between the B17 Narrow and Team Pro when I was looking at which Brooks to get, the B17N is closer to the Turbo and I went with that. good to know

FWIW, the Swift is most similar in overall shape to a Turbo.

Glad I saw this thread as Scrod's price on a team pro is unreal and perhaps the easiest sell he's ever had.

I'm not sure. All I know is that after 20 some problem-free years riding mostly Turbos, I was finding myself comfortable on the bike with the Team Pro. So I've bought two more Team Pros since then and my butt is much happier.

Call me vain but I decided against a swift because they are ugly.

Got my Team Pro Classic from Scrod a couple of months ago. Happy camper here.

F'real?

They have their place, just not on my bike

Beware, the Brooks Pro has an incurable set-back problem; check your fit first.

True. The rails are very short.

I had to get the VO way back seat post

When I had a Team Pro on my gold 722TS, I did too.

Based on my zero experience with VO saddles, I can tell you the Brooks Team Pro is a far superior saddle in function and looks.

heavy, finicky, and expensive vs heavy, finicky, and slightly less expensive.

I've never had a "finicky" brooks saddle. Have you?

had both, dont get the VO

I have the Gyes version of the swift, but with an anatomic cut out. (I bring it up because Gyes makes the saddles for VO and Cardiff, so I'm assuming they're all the same quality or near enough.) The Gyes saddle fits me beautifully and is pretty comfortable, but I'm worried that, since it was so comfortable and felt broken in after 30-40 miles, it might wear out a lot faster than a Brooks. If/when it does, I'll probably replace it with a real deal Brooks Swift, but I wish they made one with the same cutout as I like that (though the cutout and lack of leather might be the reason it broke in so fast and might wear out equally fast).