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mhd44 06-08-12 08:41 AM

Sram omnium help
 
Ok so before I even think of calling the mechanics nearby I would rather start here.

As I was installing my non-drive side crank arm, I noticed that it made the drive side come closer and closer to the frame to the point where it banged up against the chainstay. Now, keep in mind, this is my first time ever installing a crank, luckily it was pretty simple, yet I am ...well..:rolleyes: dumb for these things.

Now, my question is whether this is normal or not, and if it's because the non-drive side has to be only threaded in a certain amount.

P.s. I bought the crankset from ebay so it doesn't come with a manual.

Scrodzilla 06-08-12 08:48 AM

Unfortunately, this is an all-too-common problem with Omniums not being compatible with a lot of frames.

Someone will most likely be along soon telling you to use BB spacers on the drive side but that's not the way to fix it - spacing the cups further apart won't magically make the spindle any longer and the left crank arm won't bottom out like it's supposed to when installed to the correct torque. It may "work", but it will be janky.

prooftheory 06-08-12 08:51 AM

What frame were you installing it on?

mhd44 06-08-12 08:53 AM

An old Porter track frame. Basically made in 1991 in small production to be run in New Mexico when they were trying to legalize betting on track racing.

nightfly 06-08-12 09:12 AM

How can you tell before you buy what frames these will fit.

mhd44 06-08-12 09:15 AM

I just called my bike shop, they told me all I have to do is get a longer spindle. That wouldn't be janky would it?

ddeadserious 06-08-12 09:17 AM

Well, it wouldn't be janky because it's not possible with that crankset.

They thought you were talking about a standard 3-pc crankset, not an integrated crankset like the Omniums(or any other GXP-based crankset).

prooftheory 06-08-12 09:25 AM

It is still weird that crankarm is what is hitting and not the spider. Maybe you need a spacer? Is the bottom bracket shell 68mm?

Scrodzilla 06-08-12 10:38 AM

The arm hitting the chainstay is not as common as the spider making contact but it does happen on some frames.


Originally Posted by nightfly (Post 14329966)
How can you tell before you buy what frames these will fit.

Unfortunately, you can't.

mhd44 06-08-12 10:45 AM

Yeah so I spent the time to walk over there and it turns out it doesn't fit so a return is now in effect :(

My other choice of crank is the miche primato advanced.. Good alternative for the price?

Scrodzilla 06-08-12 10:47 AM

Great crankset, just don't use a Miche BB.

Benson 06-08-12 10:54 AM

Consider SRAM S300 cranks

Nagrom_ 06-08-12 11:15 AM

Is there a way you can test to see if Omniums will fit? Or is it trial and error?

I'd rather not go through with the error.

plowmanjoe 06-08-12 11:19 AM

what length are your crank arms?

TheRealFaux 06-08-12 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by Nagrom_ (Post 14330497)
Is there a way you can test to see if Omniums will fit? Or is it trial and error?

I'd rather not go through with the error.

If you're skeptical about if they work with the Kilo, I can tell you that they do fit.

ddeadserious 06-08-12 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by Nagrom_ (Post 14330497)
Is there a way you can test to see if Omniums will fit? Or is it trial and error?

I'd rather not go through with the error.

What bike?

Nagrom_ 06-08-12 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by ddeadserious (Post 14330520)
What bike?

Kilo TT Pro

Nagrom_ 06-08-12 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by TheRealFaux (Post 14330516)
If you're skeptical about if they work with the Kilo, I can tell you that they do fit.

Missed this. Sweet, thanks.

Scrodzilla 06-08-12 11:37 AM

They work on Kageros too - but ddeadserious had an issue with his.

ddeadserious 06-08-12 11:51 AM

Yep. Had to file the backs of the spider on all of the arms. 2 or 3 of them really needed it, the other two were just a little too close for comfort. I did manage to bump off some paint where the crank arm flexed into the chainstay. It's not horrible, but it's really not that close either. http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/e...ont%20know.gif

UCF Eric 06-08-12 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Nagrom_ (Post 14330497)
Is there a way you can test to see if Omniums will fit? Or is it trial and error?

I'd rather not go through with the error.

Kilo has been mentioned but I know they fit on:
SE Premium Brew
Leader 722
EAI BK (only a few MM between the back of the spider and the chainstay)

TheRealFaux 06-08-12 11:59 AM

75s/SSPs/DA/Campy cranksets ftw

mhd44 06-08-12 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 14330363)
Great crankset, just don't use a Miche BB.

Why not?

mhd44 06-08-12 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by plowmanjoe (Post 14330508)
what length are your crank arms?

172.5

TheRealFaux 06-08-12 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by mhd44 (Post 14332715)
Why not?

Some have have problems with the Miche BB cups loosening.


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