conundrum, which way?
 

ok.. i never post here but i'm having a bit of an issue. i'm trying to decide between 2 sets of wheels, both are the same price, both with plus' and minuses. help! mavic ellipses vs. custom deep v's on phil woods, sep spokes/alloy nips, front radial/back 3x... both look great, ellipses are lighter, phil's are bullet proof. i am leaning towards the customs but help push me over the edge..

The phils would be boat anchors. I'd go ellipses.

What are these for btw? Ellipses wont last on the street.

Phil Hubs are over-rated and heavy, Deep Vs are solid, but overpriced.

Elipses are overpriced but very good, they aren't as durable.

i'm using them on the street, no jumps or hops tho, are ellipses fragile? is the weight difference really noticeable between them? so now I'm less leaning to the customs. my only fear is how the ellipses hold up on daily use to commute and the occasional cobblestone descent.

The ellipses are 20 spoke front and rear. I wouldn't trust them on the street. How much do you weigh?

Regardless, You can make a much stronger wheelset, nearly identical in profile to ellipses, same weight and all, if not lighter, for about the same cost.

I'm with Nagrom on this. If those are your two choices, I'd go with the Deep V's.

But I'd buy a lot of other wheelsets before I'd take either of those two.

If you want a soild, but not heavy wheel you could do something like Velocity aeroheads to Suzue. Better wheels, lighter, and much more subtly ballin'.

I've ridden Mavic Ellipse on the street with no issues. Commute on them in Baltimore for quite a while back in 2005. They are very strong...and I'm a pretty heavy guy.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4048/4...421b1816_z.jpg

So did my friends:

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...7&d=1296545065
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=259987

No one ever had any issues with them. I recommend them for normal street use.

That last pic reminds me of a watering hole in the wild.

I still wouldn't.

go phils but to a light and stiff rim like a cxp33or dt rr585

if you have enough money for phil hubs go with nicer rims.

light rims are what are gonna make a wheel feel nice and snappy. if your worried about durablitiy go 36 spokes in back, hardly any weight dfference over a 32 spoke wheel.

hell you want some street cred; go for a full carbon rim... your worth it.

+1

I had Ellipses on my 725 for about 10 minutes and hated every second of riding on them.

Why?

phil wood ...you can take them with you into afterlife or give it to your kids

you could probably do the same with a set of formulas and not spend a billion dollars; but your kids probably won't love you as much or say nice things about the hubs you left them at your funeral.

so really buy phils or be forgotten soon after your death by your kids. ;)

What's the story here, did you guys all build up your bikes at the same time?

They just felt "cheap".

Yes, the day before yesterday.

I accidentally clicked reply instead of reply with quote, was referring to Carleton's picture.

Oh. Ha!

What about open pros laced to dura ace? Thats pretty pimp and practical, right guys? the weight difference between ellipses would be approx 300 grams(educated guess).

Open pros are very nice. If you are going dura ace, make sure you get the sealed ones.

I <3 my phils to veeps... bombproof. Seriously. As the new wore off of them, I've been throwing them around like economy wheels and they've remained true after some ~6k daily commuting miles on ****ty streets even from a car's view and daily lock up with walmart tanks on campus racks.

Pricey? But they look good and refined.
Heavy? But they look good and refined.
Oh yeah, and supposedly they are masterly machined and probably will last a lifetime considering there's some from the 70's still rolling whatever that means.

thanks for the replys everyone! still undecided but everyones got me thinking about lightening the load a bit. pretty sure no one likes pushing around the extra pounds, so i'm looking at other rim options. the reason i picked the phil's is because i used to have a set a while back and also used them back in the early 80's when i raced bmx so i know the build is good. i pick the v's cause i wanted to stay at aprox. 30mm for rim height as are the ellipses. currently i have cxp33's on formula hubs which i moved over from my commuter. i thought about h plus son f30's for something different from the norm, but they're even heavier. thats why i'm floating around the ellipse idea. if they are strong enough to take the occasional curb, coblestone trek, and my 160lbs of girth, then thats what i'd be going with.

So to sum it all up: thanks for all the advice, I am going to ingore it and do what I said from the start.

Standard newbie on BF.

if that was true i wouldn't be looking at other rim options senior... every response was read and thought about. but my reasoning why i choose phil wood hubs still stands.

you gotta let me know how the ellipses hold up.

I've been jonesing to build up a wheel set with American Classic hubs laced to HED Belgium C2s or Velocity A23s. A little more expensive than the ellipses but wayyyyyy lighter.