If FG went mainstream . . .
#26
Originally Posted by wunder
Look what getting big did for BMX...
Way more parts, better parts, more places to ride, better videos, better magazines.
More people = more money in the industry...and the enthusiasts reap the benefits.
Way more parts, better parts, more places to ride, better videos, better magazines.
More people = more money in the industry...and the enthusiasts reap the benefits.
#27
Nameless

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Bikes: SS Road bike (nothing outstanding), Fixed Batavus (1970)
Originally Posted by GeogScott
I've seen maybe 6 in the last year in Sacramento... too popular for my blood! I'm switching to "gearless"! (¿wtf?)
Today I saw a guy communting on a low-rider bicycle. Lets all switch to those!
#28
Originally Posted by GeogScott
I've seen maybe 6 in the last year in Sacramento... too popular for my blood! I'm switching to "gearless"! (¿wtf?)
Pic of my new coastie https://www.maukilo.com/product+kettler-8716-500.html
#29
Nameless

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From: Dallas, TX
Bikes: SS Road bike (nothing outstanding), Fixed Batavus (1970)
Originally Posted by loki_the_bubba
Pic of my new coastie https://www.maukilo.com/product+kettler-8716-500.html
-Ergonomic handlebars
-Powder coat finished steel body
-Powder coat finished steel body
#30
Stupid question. It's a convenient ride that gets me where I want to go with a minimum of fuss. It even works at temperatures in the single digits and below. That's not going to change.
#32
Bow$$
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Bikes: Surly Instigator '02, Schwinn Traveler fixed conversion, '02 Fuji Track
Originally Posted by loki_the_bubba
Pic of my new coastie https://www.maukilo.com/product+kettler-8716-500.html
#33
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From: Fullerton, CA
Bikes: Univega 1985? Sportour
This is strange. I expected a large amount of posters in here to confess how they'd drop their fixie if it became popular.
When I was first learning about bikes here, I was suprised at the gabbing and grumbling I heard from the SSFG forum.... how people where trying to be popular by going to fixed. Sure, I know a lot of people here are sarcastic, but seriously- there seems to be a real mentality of frustration that people 'found out' about fixed gear/track bikes.
People like Fugazi Dave, HereNT, 165, Vomitron and others are really helpful!
It is too bad people put out the vibe: "if you weren't here already, you don't belong."
Maybe bikes aren't as big to me as some of the people here (I'm not a messanger, but I have no car and commute everywhere on my bike)
I'd have a hard time enjoying our local fixed midnight ride in LA if people mocked me and called me a poseur.
Props to you all who keep it positive. If you ever need printing or website help, knock on my door.
When I was first learning about bikes here, I was suprised at the gabbing and grumbling I heard from the SSFG forum.... how people where trying to be popular by going to fixed. Sure, I know a lot of people here are sarcastic, but seriously- there seems to be a real mentality of frustration that people 'found out' about fixed gear/track bikes.
People like Fugazi Dave, HereNT, 165, Vomitron and others are really helpful!
It is too bad people put out the vibe: "if you weren't here already, you don't belong."
Maybe bikes aren't as big to me as some of the people here (I'm not a messanger, but I have no car and commute everywhere on my bike)
I'd have a hard time enjoying our local fixed midnight ride in LA if people mocked me and called me a poseur.
Props to you all who keep it positive. If you ever need printing or website help, knock on my door.
#34
hang up your boots
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Bikes: 84 Pinarello, Trek Liquid 30, Torker CX 24, Gromada Track
Originally Posted by charlesw
It is too bad people put out the vibe: "if you weren't here already, you don't belong."
#35
Direct Hit Not Required

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From: San Bruno, CA
Bikes: Leopard DC1, Ridley X-Fire, GT Zaskar 9r
Originally Posted by ostro
There is nothing to fear anymore, all new comers can now cross the bridge safely, as the troll has been banished
#36
無くなった

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From: Sci-Fi Wasabi
Bikes: I built the Bianchi track bike back up today.
Originally Posted by charlesw
If you ever need printing or website help, knock on my door.

And whatchya doin callin me helpful? Tryin to ruin my rep?
#37
hang up your boots
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Bikes: 84 Pinarello, Trek Liquid 30, Torker CX 24, Gromada Track
Originally Posted by BlastRadius
53/11? Did he even ride fixed?
#38
going down...
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From: South London
Bikes: Custom Raleigh track steel, Ron Kitching frame, given a budget single-speed job, Saracen Nzyme frame with most components upgraded
i don't think any sane person would have a problem if it went mainstream, but i do reckon that there is more to riding fixed than just the feel/simplicity/durability. i admit that since i built my ss up and now my fixed, i get a real kick out of comments i get about my bikes. you know, the whole 'how can you ride that thing' or the uneducated 'your bike is so shiv, look at mine, i've got gears and suspension' the latter i don't feel the need to reply to but it makes me smile inside-if only they knew...
i was involved in a commuter race with one guy on my way home after work, all fun nothing ugly, and we both hit some real **** traffic and so took the time to have a little chat, he was really interested in my ss bike and asked where i got it etc so i pointed him in the sheldon brown and condor direction. if he went away and seriously considered going fixed/ss i am happy to have offered him a little help.
i was involved in a commuter race with one guy on my way home after work, all fun nothing ugly, and we both hit some real **** traffic and so took the time to have a little chat, he was really interested in my ss bike and asked where i got it etc so i pointed him in the sheldon brown and condor direction. if he went away and seriously considered going fixed/ss i am happy to have offered him a little help.
#39
Fixies will never be as popular as freewheeling bicycles simply because of the safety issues involved. In fact, when the freewheel was introduced 100 years ago, bicycles that had them were refered to as "safety bicycles". Lets not kid ourselves. Derailleurs are technological progress and geared bicycles are safer and more efficient when ridden properly.
On the other hand, I think its great that a large number of people are getting into fixed. The training benefits are real, and if some fashion victims feel compelled to try fixed for the cache it offers thats good too-- what else are they going to? At least they'll get into shape unlike the dope smokin' junk-food eatin' punk rockers I remember from the 80's.
On the other hand, I think its great that a large number of people are getting into fixed. The training benefits are real, and if some fashion victims feel compelled to try fixed for the cache it offers thats good too-- what else are they going to? At least they'll get into shape unlike the dope smokin' junk-food eatin' punk rockers I remember from the 80's.
#40
Bow$$
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From: Bodymore, Murderland
Bikes: Surly Instigator '02, Schwinn Traveler fixed conversion, '02 Fuji Track
can I be a dope smokin' junk-food eatin' punk rocker who rides a fixed gear? cause man o man, I'd be a pioneer!
let us all not forget that none of us discovered fixed, someone had to introduce us to it in some way or another. Most of the ones who want to treat it like a secret society are just insecure people.
let us all not forget that none of us discovered fixed, someone had to introduce us to it in some way or another. Most of the ones who want to treat it like a secret society are just insecure people.
#41
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Bikes: vintage schwinn speedster, Soma Rush, Centurion Accordo fixie convertion, lotus eclair conversion, univega sport tandem
fuggit, im for whatever it takes to get people off their lazy a$$es. off of the couch, out of the car, and onto a bicycle. if that means that they ride fixies and feel underground and hip, more power to them. theyll find a more sincere reason to ride once they finally start. we should welcome anyone interested in cycling. the larger our community, the better.
#42
Originally Posted by H23
Fixies will never be as popular as freewheeling bicycles simply because of the safety issues involved. In fact, when the freewheel was introduced 100 years ago, bicycles that had them were refered to as "safety bicycles".
It wasn't until 1898 that Sachs brought the first commercially successful freewheel to market.
Arguably during the heyday of the bicycle at the end of the 19th century most bikes would have been fixed.
Will FG ever be as popular as freewheeling again? In a general sense it sure seems unlikely (there are some applications for which the answer is already yes, but we're talking the market as a whole). But then there's a big difference between asking if a bicycle will achieve majority market share (or even plurality) and whether it will become "mainstream". Carbon fiber is mainstream even though the overwhelming majority of bicycles sold are steel or aluminum.
Last edited by bostontrevor; 01-21-05 at 08:01 AM.
#43
going down...
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Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Carbon fiber is mainstream even though the overwhelming majority of bicycles sold are steel or aluminum.
thats a good point. if mainstream means that something is accepted for its functionality or style or in fact that 'special something' it brings too a certain field then surely fixed is mainstream. it is just not the 'norm'
#44
Originally Posted by bostontrevor
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It wasn't until 1898 that Sachs brought the first commercially successful freewheel to market.
Arguably during the heyday of the bicycle at the end of the 19th century most bikes would have been fixed.
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It wasn't until 1898 that Sachs brought the first commercially successful freewheel to market.
Arguably during the heyday of the bicycle at the end of the 19th century most bikes would have been fixed.
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#46
Originally Posted by habitus
i think that it's perfectly normal (in this "society") for someone to feel a little resentment/disappointment/confusion if something (i.e., riding fixed) is appropriated by a community to which this person does not identify. if this person does in fact, for example, identify first as "a biker" and second as "a fixed rider" then i don't think that person would feel bad about riding fixed becoming more "mainstream." however, for a person who identifies as a "fixed rider" first, and in some way identifies her/himself in constrast to people who ride bikes that are not fixed, i think, perhaps unconsciously, that they would not be completely enthusiastic about the appropriation of riding fixed by those people.
we all create identities that are in some way a resistance to something.
we all create identities that are in some way a resistance to something.
Maybe the question should have been "has FG gone mainstream." Sounds like it has in places. Not in Baltimore, though, IMO. Hardly anyone I've ever talked to about FG has any idea what it is.
#47
i'll chime in and say that the subcultural identification aspect is insignificant to me. it is interesting to share my particular bicycling obsession with a group that, in some loose fashion, considers itself a subculture. but i have my own identity and my own circle and my own life, and it really couldn't be any other way.
fixed gear is not mainstream in my town, although i do see more of the bikes lately (well, until the weather got bad). certainly there is no shortage of subcultures here! as an aside, i think persons who would drop fixed riding if it got "too popular" are the actual poseurs.
fixed gear is not mainstream in my town, although i do see more of the bikes lately (well, until the weather got bad). certainly there is no shortage of subcultures here! as an aside, i think persons who would drop fixed riding if it got "too popular" are the actual poseurs.
#48
Originally Posted by dpayne
Agreed. Obviously the subcultural identification aspect of it is only one part of the reason to ride FG (and not at all for some or most)---of course there is the low maintenance, road feel/fun, etc. I was just curious to see how deeply identification aspect goes with most people, and what would happen should such a subcultural distinctive be erased. What new distinctives would have to be adopted to maintain the subculture.
Maybe the question should have been "has FG gone mainstream." Sounds like it has in places. Not in Baltimore, though, IMO. Hardly anyone I've ever talked to about FG has any idea what it is.
Maybe the question should have been "has FG gone mainstream." Sounds like it has in places. Not in Baltimore, though, IMO. Hardly anyone I've ever talked to about FG has any idea what it is.
#49
how does it corner?

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From: A mile above the sea
Bikes: De Bernardi track, Shogun fixie, Salvagetti 'cross
What would be the logical progression for the shallowly style-conscious who give up their fixies? Unicycles? Trikes? Italian wheelchairs?
#50
The Alternative Dressing

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Originally Posted by shiftlessbast-
What would be the logical progression for the shallowly style-conscious who give up their fixies? Unicycles? Trikes? Italian wheelchairs?




