What Crank length should I use?
#8
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Depends on which bike I'm riding - the cranks are 165mm, 170mm (twice), and 175mm. They all feel fine but I wouldn't recommend the 175s for a fixed gear unless you have a really high bottom bracket.
#11
Cranks come in 2.5mm increments for a reason.
In terms of impact, that's like the difference between a 48x18 and 48x16. "It's only two teeth", right?
Bingo!
It depends on everyone's unique combination of:
- Femur length
- Terrain (hilly vs flat)
- Riding style (spin vs mash)
- Gear choice
- What feels right
Again, cranks come in 2.5mm increments for a reason...just like frames come in 2cm increments for a reason.
In terms of impact, that's like the difference between a 48x18 and 48x16. "It's only two teeth", right?
It depends on everyone's unique combination of:
- Femur length
- Terrain (hilly vs flat)
- Riding style (spin vs mash)
- Gear choice
- What feels right
Again, cranks come in 2.5mm increments for a reason...just like frames come in 2cm increments for a reason.
#13
48/16 vs 48/18 is something like a 12% gear inch increase, so that's quite a bit more drastic.
Your point comes across, although in this case, it's definitely splitting hairs. I doubt OP could notice the difference between 165's and 170's. I bet very few could actually.
#14
I did the math in another thread long ago, and it came out to be a 3% difference in cadence gained/leverage lost when using 165's over 170's.
48/16 vs 48/18 is something like a 12% gear inch increase, so that's quite a bit more drastic.
Your point comes across, although in this case, it's definitely splitting hairs. I doubt OP could notice the difference between 165's and 170's. I bet very few could actually.
48/16 vs 48/18 is something like a 12% gear inch increase, so that's quite a bit more drastic.
Your point comes across, although in this case, it's definitely splitting hairs. I doubt OP could notice the difference between 165's and 170's. I bet very few could actually.
Footspeed is the speed at which your foot is traveling in a circle. For a given cadence (say 100RPM) the foot must travel faster using longer cranks because the circumference of the pedal stroke is bigger. It will require less torque in the process, but the foot must travel faster.
I'll try to do the math...one sec...
#15
Leverage is one thing, but there is also footspeed.
Footspeed is the speed at which your foot is traveling in a circle. For a given cadence (say 100RPM) the foot must travel faster using longer cranks because the circumference of the pedal stroke is bigger. It will require less torque in the process, but the foot must travel faster.
I'll try to do the math...one sec...
Footspeed is the speed at which your foot is traveling in a circle. For a given cadence (say 100RPM) the foot must travel faster using longer cranks because the circumference of the pedal stroke is bigger. It will require less torque in the process, but the foot must travel faster.
I'll try to do the math...one sec...
Given a the same footspeed on 170's, and applying it to 165's, it results in a ~3% faster cadence.
#16
165mm
Circumference = 1037mm = 1.037m
Cadence = 100RPM
Time = 1min = 60s
Speed = 100 * 1.037m/60s = 1.728m/s
170mm
Circumference = 1068mm = 1.068m
Cadence = 100RPM
Time = 1min = 60s
Speed = 100 * 1.068m/60s = 1.78m/s
(1.78 - 1.728) / 1.728 * 100 = 3%
So, to keep the same cadence using 170mm cranks that you would using 165mm cranks, you'd have to move your feet 3% faster.
Oh wait...you just did that.
Circumference = 1037mm = 1.037m
Cadence = 100RPM
Time = 1min = 60s
Speed = 100 * 1.037m/60s = 1.728m/s
170mm
Circumference = 1068mm = 1.068m
Cadence = 100RPM
Time = 1min = 60s
Speed = 100 * 1.068m/60s = 1.78m/s
(1.78 - 1.728) / 1.728 * 100 = 3%
So, to keep the same cadence using 170mm cranks that you would using 165mm cranks, you'd have to move your feet 3% faster.
Oh wait...you just did that.
#17
At least we got the same results.
For each 2.5mm increment there is a 1.5% difference in footspeed and mechanical leverage. So if you aren't using 150's or 200's, it's definitely negligible on the street.
Stick to your 165's and 170's op.
For each 2.5mm increment there is a 1.5% difference in footspeed and mechanical leverage. So if you aren't using 150's or 200's, it's definitely negligible on the street.
Stick to your 165's and 170's op.
#18
It all depends on the factors that I listed above. Given a choice (which the OP has decided to make) those factors should be considered. If needed, it may have to come down to terrain. If it's flat, go 165. If it's hilly, go 170. Still can't decide? Go 165. "Spin to Win".
#19
+1
#21
jk, I have 175's on my roadie, and 165's on the kilo.
#22
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From: Cairns, Australia
Bikes: Giant CRX City
- the ground clearance of your bottom bracket
- how much you want to lean over in the corners
I'm used to my motorbike where I can (and do) almost lean 90 degrees before it hits the road, and even then the footpegs just fold up to give you a few more inches of clearance.
If I haven't ridden a bicycle for a while, I almost always strike a peddle to the ground within the first few minutes.
#24
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From: Seattle
I agree that a 5mm difference is big. Finding the best length can only be done through trial and error, though. As far as terrain is concerned, it's basically a wash. Shorter cranks = harder going up, longer cranks = harder going down. 58mm drop is a high BB. Pedal strike shouldn't be an issue.








