What do you guys think about this? http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/3278030290.html

I think there is a thread for this.

Thanks.

The Surly is nice. In all fairness, Boston's CL has quite a lot of good bikes posted regularly. Can get something off of there, ride it through the winter, and if you want to upgrade, sell it at the start of next summer for the same price as you purchased it.

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out. Definitely want to get something soon, but also not in a huge rush.

The surly is a little bit out of my price range I suppose, but it looks really nice. The guy isn't budging too much on price but I'm assuming it's because they are worth over 600 new.

Just heard back from BD and they said new kilo tts or timelines won't get in until after the new year.

Do any other stores carry these bikes? If not I am probably just going to grab this and possibly upgrade down the road if I see fit. http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...rome_paint.htm

Go with the moto track. For $279 you can't beat it.

Yea was just looking at that one on BD. I love that there are no logos on them.

What are the cons of that bike (since it's so cheap and I don't see it mentioned on these forums that much).

I just bought that one (in shiny black), and it's legit - both brakes came with it. I'll warn you mine came with one of the front dropouts crushed, so shipping can have its dangers. LBS straightened it out no problem though, and BD gave me a small refund for it.

So I guess it comes down to 2 options: Kilo TT or Motobecane Track.

Pricepoint on motobecane track is definitely nice, but what makes the Kilo TT worth over $100 more?

I bought the Windsor Hour about a year ago(same price-point as the Track, and similar geometry from what I've read). Zero complaints(other than having to switch out the ridiculous 15t cog). I wouldn't really want anything with a more aggressive geometry. I can't speak for the Kilo TT but its' pretty much the standard recommendation around here.

If you have the $$$, I would say go for the Phantom Cross Uno - Its just much more versatile than a stripped-down track bike would be. I kind of wish I could run beefier tires so I could ride on some tamer trails/crush stone lanes etc.

Thanks SSbalt and everyone else that has replied.

So the motobecane track only comes with a back brake. What are the downsides to that? I mean I don't see myself ever using a front break.

I guess I should also mention I want a single speed.

Thoughts?

For a single speed commuter, the fantom cross is better for you.

First of all, the moto track is a stripped down track bike as mentioned. Only water bottle mounts. No rack, no fender, no housing stops for brakes.

The fantom cross uno will fit large tires, has rack mounts, guides for brakes, and comes with your freewheel and dual brakes out of the box.

On a side note, I ordered from bikes direct before and package was perfect. Only complaint was the front wheel needed to be majorly trued. And they never fed the brake cables through the brake levers, yet they were fed through the caliper and had a crimp on it. Which made no sense.

If you want a single speed, you will need a front brake. A rear brake only on a single speed bike is damn near worthless here in the physical world where we all reside.

So it looks like the kilo TT and the clockwork are the only options. Out of the bikes that are available.

Or

Yea that is another option too, though I don't know if I need the wide tires for anything.

I did some research in these forums and people are saying the clockwork is big compared to other bikes. There is a 54cm available right now on bd.

Here are my measurements

Inseam 31 inches
Trunk 26 inches
Forearm 13 inches
Arm 27 inches
Thigh 23 inches
Lower Leg 22 inches
Sternal Notch 59 inches
Total Body Height 72 inches

Will 54cm work? Or do I need a larger frame?

you're results would be much more helpful....

The fit calculator that you used will actually calculate your fit. Its crazy.

Plug those measurements into the fit calculator and show us your calculated fit.

Yea I just uploaded a screenshot of them in my previous post.

Now post the geometry charts for the bicycles you are considering.

Sizing

[TABLE="width: 600, align: center"]
[TR]
[TD="width: 88"]Seat tube length

43cm
49cm
52cm
54cm
56cm
58cm
61cm[/TD]
[TD="width: 83"]Top tube length

519
539
545
555
559
563
570[/TD]
[TD="width: 96"]Standover Height

28.1"
29.6"
30.1"
30.8"
31.5"
32.0"
33.5"[/TD]
[TD="width: 88"]Head tube angle

72
72
72
72
72
72
72[/TD]
[TD="width: 73"]Seat tube angle

74
74
74
74
74
74
74[/TD]
[TD="width: 70"]Chainstay
length

409
409
409
409
409
409
409[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]BB
height

282
282
282
282
282
282
282[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Ahem.

good man.

I'd put you on the 56cm for sure.