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mihlbach 12-02-12 12:44 PM

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Pake French 75 on the scale. Frame weight (59cm) is with dropout protectors.

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mihlbach 12-02-12 12:45 PM

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The initial buildup with old BK parts...
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=286578
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=286579

The old BK parts are well-used and have a lot of "carbon scoring". Total build is somewhere around 18 lbs. The current seatpost, saddle, and headset are temporary. Also I've concluded I need some bars with a more organic curve. It would look nicer with NMSW rims and Omniums.
The headtube is shorter than the BK, so I cut the steerer tube rather high. There are too many spacers right now. I am going to experiment a bit with the stem flipped up and down and rearrange spacers before I decide what to do here. I will probably end up flipping the stem and removing most of the spacers.

Adrian_ 12-02-12 12:50 PM

Looking good, how does it ride compared to your BK? Cant wait for mine to get here in a few days.

mihlbach 12-02-12 01:21 PM

I took the Pake French 75 out for a 52 mile spin this morning. I choose a route with a good mixture of hills, flat, open road, heavy traffic so I could start to develop a well-rounded opinion.
The handling is close enough to my BK that I don't really notice a difference. Its definately a track bike.. its stable, yet quick....fun to weave around in traffic and handles sprints and hard out-of-the saddle uphill climbs beautifully. I pedaled it up to 38.6 mph top speed and it stays confident at high speeds/insane cadences as long as the road is smooth. The BB area is plenty stiff, though maybe not quite as stiff as the BK, although its too close to be sure. Anyway, its not enough of a difference to be a concern.

The fork is much nicer than the BK fork. The brake hole is drilled in the right place. The brake hole of my BK fork wasn't positioned properly. The F75 fork is not quite as stiff either. It shows a small amount of visible flex when standing and hammering (which is a good thing, unlike the BK fork which felt rigid and dead).

As expected it provides a more jaring ride than a well-designed road bike. People generally complain about aluminum because its beats you up. This aspect of aluminum doesn't really bother me. I'm certain I could comfortably ride a century on this thing. However, the additional rigidity does have other drawbacks. My BK tended to buck over large bumps and waves in the pavement, which kind of sucks at high speed, especially when cornering. The F75 does the same, and its not as if I wasn't expecting this, given the straight bladed fork and oversize aluminum tubed frame.

Basically, like any stiff track bike, the bumpier it gets, the less confident it feels. I can't really make up my mind if the F75 is a more jarring ride than the steel BK, but I get the feeling that it is, but I really need to ride it more before I can make up my mind.

This isn't really a concern most of the time and it rides just fine on decent asphalt road (which make up 95% of the roads around here.) Moreover, rough roads and comfort are farther beyond the design parameters of this frame compared to a standard road frame, so its not something to fault the frame for.

Overall, I'm pleased with the frame, and it was worth what I paid. Its certainly a good entry-mid level track frame, and it serves my purposes well. I wouldn't choose it if I were only going to have one road bike, because its not really designed for the road, but neither is any true track bike. However, its perfectly capable of handling a century...though I doubt I'll be riding that far at any given time.

mihlbach 12-02-12 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Adrian_ (Post 15007591)
Looking good, how does it ride compared to your BK? Cant wait for mine to get here in a few days.

Where did you order yours? What color?

Adrian_ 12-02-12 02:29 PM

A seller on eBay had them for $325 w free shipping. Got blue because its the only color they had.

mihlbach 12-02-12 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Adrian_ (Post 15007846)
A seller on eBay had them for $325 w free shipping. Got blue because its the only color they had.

Yep...thats were I got mine!

Crandrew 12-03-12 09:36 AM

Thanks for the review. Looking good.

Nagrom_ 12-03-12 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by mihlbach (Post 15007570)

Think it had anything to do with trying to remove the seatpost while being clamped from the seat tube?
I have no idea, but it may not have helped.

yummygooey 12-03-12 03:47 PM

miss my kilo

but it wasn't even close to my TET

french75 looks good!

Leukybear 12-03-12 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by yummygooey (Post 15011599)
french75 looks good!

+1

Looking good milbach!

mihlbach 12-03-12 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Nagrom_ (Post 15010360)
Think it had anything to do with trying to remove the seatpost while being clamped from the seat tube?
I have no idea, but it may not have helped.

No , The frame wasn't clamped to anything when it broke.

Nagrom_ 12-03-12 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by mihlbach (Post 15012126)
No , The frame wasn't clamped to anything when it broke.

Figured as much, was just curious.


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