It doesn't matter if they run big because there are geometry charts that list the exact measurements. Those measurements are accurate. We postulate that yours are not.

Alright, ill try that tomorrow. Thanks for the help

Alright, new numbers i put in the calculator.
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[TR]
[TD="class: left"]Gender[/TD]
[TD="class: right, align: right"]M[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: left"]Inseam[/TD]
[TD="class: right, align: right"]30.50 in[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: left"]Trunk[/TD]
[TD="class: right, align: right"]22.75 in[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: left"]Forearm[/TD]
[TD="class: right, align: right"]13 in[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: left"]Arm[/TD]
[TD="class: right, align: right"]25 in[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: left"]Thigh[/TD]
[TD="class: right, align: right"]24.25 in[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: left"]Lower Leg[/TD]
[TD="class: right, align: right"]21.50 in[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: left"]Sternal Notch[/TD]
[TD="class: right, align: right"]56.25 in[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: left"]Total Body Height[/TD]
[TD="class: right, align: right"]
66.25 in

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Which gave me
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[TR]
[TH="align: center"] [/TH]
[TH="align: center"][h=4]The Competitive Fit[/h][/TH]
[TH="align: center"][h=4]The Eddy Fit[/h][/TH]
[TH="align: center"][h=4]The French Fit[/h][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: left"]Seat tube range c-c[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]50.2 - 50.7[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]51.4 - 51.9[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]53.1 - 53.6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: alt, bgcolor: #F5F5F5"]
[TD="class: left"]Seat tube range c-t[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]51.7 - 52.2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]52.9 - 53.4[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]54.6 - 55.1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: left"]Top tube length[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]52.0 - 52.4[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]52.0 - 52.4[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]53.2 - 53.6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: alt, bgcolor: #F5F5F5"]
[TD="class: left"]Stem Length[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]10.2 - 10.8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]9.1 - 9.7[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]9.3 - 9.9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: left"]BB-Saddle Position[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]66.2 - 68.2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]65.4 - 67.4[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]63.7 - 65.7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: alt, bgcolor: #F5F5F5"]
[TD="class: left"]Saddle-Handlebar[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]49.4 - 50.0[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]50.2 - 50.8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]51.9 - 52.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: left"]Saddle Setback[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]3.9 - 4.3[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]5.1 - 5.5[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]4.6 - 5.0

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
I sent an inquiry about further info on the measurements and what they might suggest, and they said that my measurements are coming out a little long for my height and inseam but they would suggest a frame with an effective top tube of 54cm. The 50cm kilo says the level top tube measurement is 52.3cm and the 53cm is 54.8cm. any suggestions? Dont mean to be to much of a newbie but guess itd be beter than buying the wrong size hah
Thanks!

Those numbers look a lot better.

The 50cm fits you like a glove.

Sweet, im really excited about this now haha cant wait to get riding
Thanks again for the help

No problem. You'll like it for sure.

Good question!?
The bike frame is lugged Double Butted CrMo with really nice Sugino components... must be the dragon that scares them?