im sorta toying with the idea of swapping my rush frame for a pure bred track frame. id like a steel frame with no braze-ons and thin, uniform tubes. something around $500 or so... lugged would be nice. something comparable in metal str (631) and weight of the rush (4lbs). any suggestions?

I have as yet to even take delivery of my first fixed gear bike, so don't listen to me.

However, if my soon to arrive Pista works out as well as I hope, I have another project in mind, already, sort of as an art object.
It involves a DeBernardi frame.

https://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2004/e/kubek.htm

I've seen this frame on the net listed form $495 to $595.

Anyway, I find myself wondering if a person could make a fixed gear bike entirely out of Italian parts, including rims, tires, spokes, hardware....

It would start with an Italian frame.

A person could much more easily do an all Japanese bike, and maybe even have a better bike in the end.

I guess a person could do an all-Italian, an all-Japanese and an all-American bike.

thanks for the insight ken c.
bah, i just found the thread i was looking for... https://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-84691
dedicated ... thats the word i was missing in the search feature...

anyway, add to this thread or kill it...

or add it to the "FAQ" section that so wants to be.

while this doesn't address the issue of rims, tires and spokes- if you started with an italian frame (de bernardi), threw in an italian track group (miche), and topped it off with an italian stem/bars (cinelli), you'd be well on your way.

Should be easy enough, right?

Italian frame, Campy ensemble, any one of a number of Ital saddles, Cinelli bars and tape, Vittoria tires... Just off the cuff.

Italian spokes?

Campy makes spokes.

Ahh... Thanks, now I know.
Im half heartedly (mostly by accident) doing the same thing. If you count the frame, Deda tubes altho assembled in England, then all I need are Italian pedals and wheels.

It's funny that you say that because I was just contemplating the same thing. The bike I'm building up now is almost all Japanese (I plan on slowly switching out the rest of the parts for Japanese). For my next bike I was planning on doing an all-American bike. Was thinking Chicago Schwinn, Phil Wood hubs, Chris King headset, and the rest I haven't figured out. A summer project for sure. I really like having themes to bikes, it adds a bit of difficulty to the build.