Thanks. Will be ordering one of those for sure. Salad hands haha. Such the jokester.

So you are cheating then. :p

In the age of featherweight carbon bikes, riding a 25 lb road bike is pretty hardcore.

We used to fill our water bottles with sand and rocks for training rides.


-Tim-

the mr pink is far from light, but still ~15lbs lighter than the riv and other bikes i've been on the past few years. weighs more than the nature boy, but the gears make up for it.

Drinking rocks is pretty hardcore.

I've never understood this. How does riding a heavy bike make you stronger? IME it's how hard pedal that makes you strong, less the bike. Your effort is independent of the machine you're on.

If a heavy bike makes you want to push harder, then I can see how it's a good motivation tool, however.

Headed out for some long solo miles today: 77 mi w 2800' elevation in about 4 hrs flat

I've always hated swapping tires. Until now.

The Clement's on my nature boy come off and go on so easy I'm looking for excuses to take them off. Just like my pants.

I loled.

Sh–––t.

The apaloosa is 40 lbs? For real?

it's probably pretty damn close. especially with the front/rear rack setup and rear bag. i'd say at least 35 for sure.

Ah, ok, you are counting the gear as well. Do you happen to know what the bike weighs without the extra stuff? Just curious.

Saying that effort is independent of the weight of the bike is like telling a weight lifter that his effort is independent of the amount of weight being lifted.

Pushing a heavier bike up a hill is no different from pushing a heavier stack of weights in the weight room. It takes more effort to move a heavier weight.

Another way to look at it is work. Moving more mass requires more work. Someone who rode a 30 lb bike up a hill did more work than someone who rode a 20 lb bike up the same hill.


-Tim-

Different training styles. I'm pretty sure TMonk goes almost completely on power, while Tim goes by times.

However many w/kg is going to be the same no matter the bike, so bike weight doesn't really matter for training.

Today I learned that a tennis ball and a wall make for a damn satisfying self-massage on the back muscles.

As Muffin suggested I train with power. If I'm going to ride for 3 hrs at 200 w my speed (uphill and flat) will vary by which bike I chose.

But before then it was heart rate, and perceived exertion before that.

The weight lifting analogy doesn't work because bicycles have gears and with sufficiently low gears you can get a huge bike up a hill without too much power - or work / time.

I have Can't Wait For My New Frame To Arrive fever and box o'parts just waiting in my garage.

This is not true because a lower gear will cause the duration to increase. It will simply take you longer.

Power is an instantaneous measurement. Work is measured over time.

At the risk of sounding condescending, what I'm talking about is basic physics. It is middle school curricula.


-Tim-

You got that mixed up.

Work = Force x Distance

Power = Work / time. Power is not an instantaneous measurement, and time is the missing variable in the weight lifting analogy.

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Pushing a bike up a hill is work. Doing it faster (in less time) requires more power. The point I've been trying to make is that your body doesn't know the difference between bikes - just how hard you are working.

Correct

EDIT: It might be easier to think about this in terms of heart rate - another metric of aerobic expenditure that is directly proportional to power, with some drift of course. If you rode at ~180 bpm for 5 minutes, do you think it would make a difference to your cardiovascular system what bike you were on?

Unfortunately for me, the cutoff age to become a Trappist monk is 50.

hey, if I'm still kickin' and riding like you at 50, I'll be stoked :)

Duly noted.:beer:

Did someone say Trappist? MMMM.

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tinker juarez still does 7 hour mtb rides with his backpack full of rocks.

uphill both ways, on platform pedals, and with a lefty fork (!!!)

im lurking in the background of david millars ig stories.