Hi,

I am looking for a new singlespeed, mainly for the purpose of training in addition to some commuting. It is essential that this bike has quality equipement components which not only will function well, but also will last for a while.

Price range: 600 - 1000 $.

I am considering these two at the moment:


Cinelli Mystic Rats:
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/cinelli-boot...tic-rats-2013/

Bianchi Pista:
https://www.citygrounds.com/bianchi/b...teel-2013-2795


I find the Cinelli more appealing due to the high quality equipement.
Anyone got any thoughts or suggestions?

Cheers

Ask yourself this, Aluminum or Steel? Fixed gear or a single speed?

I would get the Bianchi(Not too much of a fan of deep dish rims, also the downward slant top tube)
The bianchi is way cheaper, you can spend the couple hundred left over to upgrade parts in the future(Immediate purchase should be toe straps/cages)

Well, I think I would prefer Aliminium. The bike being fixed is not a necessity, being singlespeed is more important. The bianchi is a great option, but isn`t the Cinelli more of a "road" bike and better for training?

Why even ask when you've already made your choice? And geo wise, maybe they built it like a road bike; it does have a tall headtube. It doesn't necessarily mean it's any better for "training" than any other type of bike. If you're training long distance, you're better off with a geared bike. If you're training for track racing, you're better off with a bike with more of a track geometry. In those cases, this bike would actually be bad for training.

Is the Cinelli good value for the money then? or are there any other options i should consider?

If it's within your budget, and you like the way it looks, go for it.

^ This.
I had a Bianchi San Jose as a commuter/fixed gear, everything was stock(except handlebars) and I had absolutely no problem with it, even with hill climbing !
I don't think you'll regret buying the pista, steel is very forgiving on the road. (Hope this convinced you a little )

charlie the unicorn, ask him.

Wow ! Now aren't we clever.

Given the price range, I'd recommend a Kona Paddy Wagon.
Singlespeed/fixed, road geo, bottle mounts/braze-ons for commuting, a bit of money left over for contact point upgrades when you're ready.

IIRC, Pistas aren't drilled for rear brakes (though this may have changed recently), and Mystic Rats = Cinelli price jack without Italian craftsmanship.

Agree on the second point, but not on the first. Also, Pistas used to have track geometry, but are now slacker for road use.



Also, a steel frame with shallow section rims is going to give a much smoother ride on street pavement than a stiff aluminum frame with deep V rims.

^^I stand corrected! Been a while since I checked for Pistas. That actually looks like a street-sensible build.
(still siding with Paddy Wagon for braze-ons)

With that budget I would go with a Wabi.

Thanks for the answers guys ! Do you have any online-retailers for recommendation (preferably not too expensive sites), that does ship internationally ?

As hairnet pointed out, Wabi is an excellent choice, and they do ship internationally. The Wabi Classic is a great deal at only $695 USD complete except for pedals, and you can completely customize it at no extra cost. The frameset is much better quality than the Bianchi for sure. I have a Wabi Lightning (old Scandium model), and it's fantastic. The owner, Richard Snook is great to deal with too.

https://www.wabicycles.com/classic_bike_spec_11.html

I've been riding a Pista on the road since March of this year. I swapped out the bars to Nitto Noodles for more hand positions, and swapped out the saddle. It has been my go to bike for months now.

I just stumbled over the Specialized Langster (https://www.evanscycles.com/products/...042293#reviews), looks like it should fit my needs well, + it is cheaper. Anyone got any experiences with it?

If I were in the position to choose between a Wabi and a Langster I'd go Wabi no doubt.

But I ride a specialized Hardrock on the trails round here and although its a pretty low level mountain bike it feels damn near indestructible. The build quality is better than the trek I was riding previously. No experience with the langster, but I'd bet it would be a similar story.

Hmmm, can anyone enlighten me about what is so good about the wabi?

Frame

I get that the frame is good, but how about the components? pure-quality?

parts are decent and apparently the wheels stand up well

The Wabi wheelset and Andel crankset are both excellent for the money.

Damn that Wabi looks nice ! Most complete bicycle isn't going to be equipped with the best components available on the market (With that budget) I'm sure you'll be very satisfied with the Bianchi Pista, or the Wabi. If not, you can swap parts you are not satisfied with.