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Kopsis 06-13-13 11:57 AM

Why track hubs in front?
 
Ok, noob question: why do most of the SS/FG bikes and wheelsets I see use track hubs on the front wheel? It seems like road hubs would be much lighter (and more convenient with the QR). Am I missing something?

Nagrom_ 06-13-13 12:02 PM

Nah, you're not missing anything. People just like matching sets.

I use a road front.

Kayce 06-13-13 12:06 PM

Buying a wheelset is easier and cheaper than buying each wheel. Just like buying a hubset is cheaper than buying them individually.

seau grateau 06-13-13 12:14 PM

Cuz matchy-matchy.

seanifred 06-13-13 12:22 PM

also, road hubs tend to have QR, which is a no-no on the track. luckily, i have a zipp track skewer :)

JohnnyBighead 06-13-13 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by seau grateau (Post 15738803)
Cuz matchy-matchy.

Yep, this is the real reason.

TMonk 06-13-13 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by seanifred (Post 15738850)
also, road hubs tend to have QR, which is a no-no on the track. luckily, i have a zipp track skewer :)

yeah right like anyone actually rides their track bikes on the track

Nagrom_ 06-13-13 12:50 PM

I ride my front road hub on the track.

Bolt on skewerz mang.

boom 06-13-13 01:27 PM

I like the track nuts because it's too easy for someone walk off with my QR wheel in the city. The nuts at least require a wrench.

seau grateau 06-13-13 01:34 PM

Carrying a cable for your wheels solves that problem.

solipsist716 06-13-13 01:42 PM

^ Bro, c'mon. Negated weight savings. How am I supposed to KOM an strava now ha?

garlic_rice 06-13-13 01:44 PM

Track front hubs are better at turning left.

caloso 06-13-13 01:46 PM

Semi-on-topic:

Has anyone used the 5mm hex head nuts?

http://www.bdopcycling.com/Novatec/H...LLEN-BOLTS.png

They look convenient (no need to carry a box wrench) but wonder if they have enough clamping force.

hairnet 06-13-13 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by boom (Post 15739077)
I like the track nuts because it's too easy for someone walk off with my QR wheel in the city. The nuts at least require a wrench.

Do you think a bike thief won't be carry thing around a 15mm wrench or adjustable wrench?

seau grateau 06-13-13 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by hairnet (Post 15739207)
Do you think a bike thief won't be carry thing around a 15mm wrench or adjustable wrench?

+1 The only stuff that's ever been jacked from me was bolted on.

TejanoTrackie 06-13-13 02:49 PM

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This is my security system. Don't even have to lock it up.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=323120

sleepy 06-13-13 02:50 PM

Regular road hub with locking skewers is most practical IMO.

boom 06-13-13 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by hairnet (Post 15739207)
Do you think a bike thief won't be carry thing around a 15mm wrench or adjustable wrench?

A bike thief will have a wrench, but a crackhead won't.

TejanoTrackie 06-13-13 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by boom (Post 15739418)
A bike thief will have a wrench, but a crackhead won't.

Well, then a crackhead won't have an allen wrench to steal your road wheel if you use a nutted skewer.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Delta-Axlerod...wYmg~~60_1.JPG

sheepdog84 06-13-13 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by TMonk (Post 15738955)
yeah right like anyone actually rides their track bikes on the track


wait, we're supposed to ride our bikes?!....








****.

Vinnems 06-13-13 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by boom (Post 15739077)
I like the track nuts because it's too easy for someone walk off with my QR wheel in the city. The nuts at least require a wrench.

When I lock my bike, I pull the front wheel and put it with my back and run my lock through all of it and the frame.

Soil_Sampler 06-13-13 05:32 PM

5mm
 

Originally Posted by caloso (Post 15739149)
Semi-on-topic:

Has anyone used the 5mm hex head nuts?

http://www.bdopcycling.com/Novatec/H...LLEN-BOLTS.png

They look convenient (no need to carry a box wrench) but wonder if they have enough clamping force.

Your hub has to have the correct threads/axle to accept those bolts, most do not.
Might slip on some hardened track ends.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ar_dropout.jpg


http://www.bdopcycling.com/Novatec/H...6SB-BO-SIL.png

europa 06-14-13 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by sheepdog84 (Post 15739537)
wait, we're supposed to ride our bikes?!.
****.

Only from where you parked the car to where you want to be seen :)

Dave Wolfe 06-14-13 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by boom (Post 15739418)
A bike thief will have a wrench, but a crackhead won't.

If the crackhead looks in my seat bag, he will find the wrench, along with an assortment of allens and a few bux too. Of course i live in Cedar Rapids, folks still leave their car keys sitting on the car floor and i dont think anyone here actually knows what a deadbolt is for.

TejanoTrackie 06-14-13 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Wolfe (Post 15741451)
If the crackhead looks in my seat bag, he will find the wrench, along with an assortment of allens and a few bux too. Of course i live in Cedar Rapids, folks still leave their car keys sitting on the car floor and i dont think anyone here actually knows what a deadbolt is for.

You prolly don't have a lot of crackheads out there either.

Jared. 06-14-13 09:16 AM

All it takes is one crackhead...

I split the difference, I have low flange track hubs. Definitely prefer the look of a low flange or road hub.

Kopsis 06-14-13 10:08 AM

Thanks for all the replies!

Ok, so what I'm hearing is that except for the small minority who use their SS/FG as a track bike, track hubs are a fashion accessory. Since my SS is a CX bike and the only fashion accessory that will get me any cred is a liberal coating of mud :), I see no reason not to lace up a standard road hub in order to speed up wheel changes and have 100+g less weight to haul over the barriers.

TejanoTrackie 06-14-13 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kopsis (Post 15742382)
Thanks for all the replies!

Ok, so what I'm hearing is that except for the small minority who use their SS/FG as a track bike, track hubs are a fashion accessory. Since my SS is a CX bike and the only fashion accessory that will get me any cred is a liberal coating of mud :), I see no reason not to lace up a standard road hub in order to speed up wheel changes and have 100+g less weight to haul over the barriers.

I assume your CX bike frame has vertical dropouts in which case there is no reason not to use road hubs with QR skewers. One of the reasons for a nutted track hub for the rear wheel is that track frames have horizontal dropouts that won't retain the axle under load w/o the tightness of a bolted connection. Also, a high flange hub in the rear provides a stiffer wheel that is desirable on the track, which is very smooth. Many front track wheels today are low flange and low spoke count radial laced, just like road wheels.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=323245

gregjones 06-14-13 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Wolfe (Post 15741451)
If the crackhead looks in my seat bag, he will find the wrench, along with an assortment of allens and a few bux too. Of course i live in Cedar Rapids, folks still leave their car keys sitting on the car floor and i dont think anyone here actually knows what a deadbolt is for.

I've been thru Cedar Rapids. The only time you lock your car is zucchini season....otherwise you'll get a backseat full of it.

rex615 06-14-13 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 15742689)
Also, a high flange hub in the rear provides a stiffer wheel

Could you explain how this works?

Also, cool looking Bianchi.


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