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Advantages of fixed over single speed?

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Old 06-21-13 | 02:09 PM
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https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/186407-What-s-the-deal-with-getting-quot-Fixed-quot?p=2380956&viewfull=1#post2380956


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Old 06-21-13 | 02:21 PM
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Plus you look cooler wearing a beanie like a smurf on a fixed.
Because naturally, we all wear Smurf hats.
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Old 06-21-13 | 10:59 PM
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I got a fixed gear to get excited about bikes again. It worked. Just riding around was terrifying (with a brake, but i'd forget to keep pedaling and get all wonky). Then, it was "cool", now it's a challenge. There's so many skills to learn and master even if some are dumb (skidding), but others are more legit (bombing a hill, you better be spinning as fast as the wheel says you should go, or you'll start bouncing, which leads to bad control inputs, etc). Climbing is a whole nother thing in itself. Having one gear is hard enough, having to deal with that one gear being connected to the road is another. I personally would not consider riding SS versus fixed at this point... not to say I would not ride geared, but one speed riding, i'd prefer fixed.
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Old 06-22-13 | 02:22 AM
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Well I was reading a few articles and read that police were ticketing fixies without brakes. So I would have to have brakes. That might take the fun out of it.
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Old 06-22-13 | 07:57 AM
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Well I was reading a few articles and read that police were ticketing fixies without brakes. So I would have to have brakes. That might take the fun out of it.
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Old 06-22-13 | 08:11 AM
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Do you think that people go to sports car forums and ask if they have a practical advantage over non-sports cars? There is a speed limit so sports cars can't actually go any faster than non-sports cars. The use more gas and have much less space for transporting people and things. They cost way more in upfront cost and insurance. But . . . they look cool and feel faster and are fun.
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Old 06-22-13 | 08:38 AM
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Do you think that people go to sports car forums and ask if they have a practical advantage over non-sports cars? There is a speed limit so sports cars can't actually go any faster than non-sports cars. The use more gas and have much less space for transporting people and things. They cost way more in upfront cost and insurance. But . . . they look cool and feel faster and are fun.
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Old 06-22-13 | 09:46 AM
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The only way an old geezer can score a hot babe? Maybe applicable to fixed gears as well?
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Old 06-22-13 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by prooftheory
Do you think that people go to sports car forums and ask if they have a practical advantage over non-sports cars?
Think about this for a second. I'm sure there are idiots out there who do just that.
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Old 06-23-13 | 04:40 AM
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I like the feel of the direct drive, more control over the bike, less maintenance, more aware of everything(You'll know what I mean when you ride one).
These are my opinion.
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Old 06-23-13 | 09:10 AM
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Seems like a clutch would solve the problems some people have mentioned while retaining the flavor of riding fixed. I guess an internal clutch would be counter-purpose to the theme of simplicity though. I just figured that a simple idea like that, someone is probably selling it somewhere.
Meh. Why even bother riding fixed if you're one to just flake out and coast.
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Old 06-23-13 | 09:23 AM
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Meh. Why even bother riding fixed if you're one to just flake out and coast.
Mainly to avoid pedal strike and still have a fixed gear. And a little extra for steep hills. To me that's analogous to wanting to have brakes when you could just pedal slower.
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Old 06-23-13 | 09:35 AM
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To me, part of riding a fixed gear is understanding and committing to what it is, not something you can switch on and off. If you want to coast then stick to a freewheel. As for you analogy, I have no idea what you're talking about. Feeling like you screwed yourself by heading out brakeless? Kidding aside, I get it but I don't agree. Brakes are one thing, fixed/free is something else.

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Originally Posted by hairnet
To me, part of riding a fixed gear is understanding and committing to what it is, not something you can switch on and off. If you want to coast then stick to a freewheel.
Exactly. When you ride fixed, you must adjust your riding style to the constraints of the drivetrain. I corner differently fixed than free. I don't counter-steer as much, which leans the bike more, and take a different line. I've never yet crashed from pedal strike on a fixed bike, but I have running geared when I tried to pedal through a turn leaned over too far.
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Old 06-23-13 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by hairnet
To me, part of riding a fixed gear is understanding and committing to what it is, not something you can switch on and off. If you want to coast then stick to a freewheel. As for you analogy, I have no idea what you're talking about. Feeling like you screwed yourself by heading out brakeless? Kidding aside, I get it but I don't agree. Brakes are one thing, fixed/free is something else.
Brake analogy: a safety feature that isn't fully in the spirit of fixed gear.

This, and the post above, are the first examples in this thread alluding to possible pedal strike in corners as an advantage for fixed gears. Before this, it was cited as a potential problem of fixed gear vs single speed. For those who don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater (who would like all the other fixed gear advantages and experiences but won't because they'll cut a corner like on a regular road bike) it seems like a viable idea. If it's even safe - I don't know what would happen if you were coasting downhill at 35 or 40 and the clutch popped out. I imagine instant rear wheel skid or the pedals throwing your feet off and flailing about the legs. Maybe that's the real idea-killer?
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Old 06-23-13 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GENESTARWIND
Wat?
Just skip it.
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Old 06-23-13 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
Brake analogy: a safety feature that isn't fully in the spirit of fixed gear.
Um, no.
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Old 06-23-13 | 01:54 PM
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Um, no.
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Or maybe we're just not "zen" enough.
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Old 06-23-13 | 01:57 PM
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I ride fixed all over London. I also ride a road bike, and I live centrally so to get out to the country side I have to ride through traffic. I feel infinitely more confident in traffic on my fixed gear. I have much more balance and control. I can get through the tiniest gaps on my fixie, places I wouldn't dare go on my road bike.

I think it is because I have the option to back pedal and stand on my pedals. I can literally stand still, pop my front wheel around, and manoeuvre through traffic quickly. You just can't do that with a free wheel bike. It's hard to explain, but if you really ride your fixie, you get it.

Where I live, it's lots of traffic and lots of flats. If I ever move out of London, it will be less traffic and more hills and I'll flip the wheel to free. All of the advantages of fixed go out the window if you don't ride in traffic, and spinning crazy fast on long downhills gets kind of old.
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Old 06-23-13 | 02:20 PM
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^^ I think that's true. Maneuverability in tight traffic was one of the main reasons I preferred riding fixed in the city when I lived in Philly. The traffic dynamic in LA is totally different though, and I prefer my road bike most of the time over here.
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Old 06-23-13 | 03:07 PM
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elaborate

It is more hilly on your side of town and some of those hills are long
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Originally Posted by hairnet
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It is more hilly on your side of town and some of those hills are long
The hills are one thing, and most of the roads I ride on are pretty wide and fast. If there's no bike lane, I'm typically just sticking to the right lane and letting traffic pass me. Philly, on the other hand, was full of narrow one-way streets with lots of tight squeezes and slow traffic. So if you could squeeze through tight spaces and ride between cars, you'd make it through the city much faster than a car could. I guess you get that in parts of LA too, but it doesn't seem as widespread in my experience.
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Nah, the only one way streets are in DTLA and they're still all at least two lanes wide.
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Plus DTLA has crazy nonsense like Bunker Hill. First time I saw that thing I was like...

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