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Old 07-27-13 | 01:17 PM
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That is a very valid point though. If you're riding it comfortably and getting proper leg extension with your saddle that low, the frame doesn't fit you and it wouldn't be a good idea to put money into having it repaired. Bikes come in different sizes for a reason.
I've rode the bike once...... Haven't made any adjustments, I did quite a bit of research and the frame should fit me, the seats in the position of when I bought it stop jumping to conclusions that I'm not big enough for the frame. Also looked online its a 62cm frame which converts to 23.6 inches and that says inside of leg should be 91 cm which converts to 35.8 inseam which mine is 35
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Old 08-04-13 | 01:45 PM
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Well instead of crying about "my frames screwed blah blah blah" I called up a buddy of mine who is a professional welder and he said he can weld aluminum. Gave him my frame 2 days later he welded it and said everything went really well the aluminum cooperated and he said it should be nearly as strong as it was new. Sure now my bike doesn't look as sleek but I really only care about function. I also repacked the crank bearings with grease and cleaned everything no more creaks and rides like a dream. I also spray painted over the welds and the paint blended really well. This is how you have a can do attitude instead of cry and be set back by a tiny crack in a frame.

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Old 08-04-13 | 01:46 PM
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Nice fix. Glad everything worked out.

Cue TT weld inspection.
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Old 08-04-13 | 02:20 PM
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Why didnt you grind down the weld smooth so that you dont have that big buger of a bead sticking up?
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Old 08-04-13 | 02:29 PM
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Why didnt you grind down the weld smooth so that you dont have that big buger of a bead sticking up?
Cause that's the material that's making it structurally sound.
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Old 08-04-13 | 03:30 PM
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I'm glad everything turned out well!

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Old 08-04-13 | 03:39 PM
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It looks TIG welded and if it was welded correctly then the heat penetrated the material and created a bond all the way through and can be ground flat. I hope that bead isnt just sitting on top of the tube or the guy who welded it needs to go back to welding school
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Old 08-04-13 | 08:30 PM
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It looks TIG welded and if it was welded correctly then the heat penetrated the material and created a bond all the way through and can be ground flat. I hope that bead isnt just sitting on top of the tube or the guy who welded it needs to go back to welding school
Don't do that!
The advice isn't good, not to say it's sh****.

It's obvious, that singlespd neither went to welding school for the theoretical part, nor did he ever weld any aluminum alloys.
I recommend to weld some aluminum with TIG or MIG and get some hands-on experience before giving dangerous advice and talking about other's welding school.
Aluminum welds are almost always "softer" than the material before welding.
Cannondale uses 6061 for most of their frames.
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6061 is highly weldable, for example using tungsten inert gas welding (TIG) or metal inert gas welding (MIG). Typically, after welding, the properties near the weld are those of 6061-O, a loss of strength of around 80%. The material can be re-heat-treated to restore -T4 or -T6 temper for the whole piece. After welding, the material can naturally age and restore some of its strength as well. Nevertheless, the Alcoa Structural Handbook recommends the design strength of the material adjacent to the weld to be taken as 11,000 psi without proper heat treatment after the weld.
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Old 08-04-13 | 09:25 PM
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It's cool, looks like a Cinelli now.
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Old 08-04-13 | 09:48 PM
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Don't do that!
The advice isn't good, not to say it's sh****.

It's obvious, that singlespd neither went to welding school for the theoretical part, nor did he ever weld any aluminum alloys.
I recommend to weld some aluminum with TIG or MIG and get some hands-on experience before giving dangerous advice and talking about other's welding school.
Aluminum welds are almost always "softer" than the material before welding.
Cannondale uses 6061 for most of their frames.
I guess we should ask the OP if the guy who welded it knew how to fix bike frames and did he drill the crack on both ends to keep the material from cracking more. Did he then grind a valley along the crack for the filler rod to pool and penetrate and did the welder use the correct filler rod for the type of aluminum used in the frame? Was it heat treated? We dont know. If everything was done correctly then I dont see any reason why it cant be ground down. Its up to the OP to decide if he want to take a chance
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Old 08-04-13 | 10:08 PM
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I guess we should ask the OP if the guy who welded it knew how to fix bike frames and did he drill the crack on both ends to keep the material from cracking more. Did he then grind a valley along the crack for the filler rod to pool and penetrate and did the welder use the correct filler rod for the type of aluminum used in the frame? Was it heat treated? We dont know. If everything was done correctly then I dont see any reason why it cant be ground down. Its up to the OP to decide if he want to take a chance
Just face it, you are wrong. I mostly deal with steel but it is never advised to grind down the weld when it's a structural component. I'd leave the weld as is and on top of that, it doesn't even look all that bad, after the paint gets some dirt on it, I doubt anyone would even notice the weld.
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It's cool, looks like a Cinelli now.
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Old 08-05-13 | 02:12 PM
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I guess we should ask the OP if the guy who welded it knew how to fix bike frames and
  1. did he drill the crack on both ends to keep the material from cracking more.
  2. Did he then grind a valley along the crack for the filler rod to pool and penetrate
  3. and did the welder use the correct filler rod for the type of aluminum used in the frame?
  4. Was it heat treated? We dont know.
If everything was done correctly then I dont see any reason why it cant be ground down. Its up to the OP to decide if he want to take a chance
You have never welded any aluminum and you didn't read enough of the books.

1. valid
2. frame tubing is only 0.085", not much to grind
3. if you want do to 4. then 4043 is pretty much your only choice
4. I know. And you could also know if you read the books. Heat treatment for T6 is one hour at 980F and another one at 500F.
How will the paint look after that?

Exactly!

It's up to you to learn the lesson and to stop giving dangerous advice.
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Old 08-05-13 | 03:25 PM
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4. I know. And you could also know if you read the books. Heat treatment for T6 is one hour at 980F and another one at 500F.
How will the paint look after that?
Do it and then paint it red, the fastest color.
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Old 08-06-13 | 06:25 AM
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Maybe you can get the crack welded, but what else is wrong with the bike? Got carbon forks? (I own a newer Capo which came with carbon forks.) You can't necessarily see damage to the forks. The frame crack makes the rest of the bike suspect. Creaky BB? I paid $250 for the frame with forks new. Buy a new frame and forks, take anything decent off the Capo you bought, and take your lumps.
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Old 08-10-13 | 10:35 PM
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It looks TIG welded and if it was welded correctly then the heat penetrated the material and created a bond all the way through and can be ground flat. I hope that bead isnt just sitting on top of the tube or the guy who welded it needs to go back to welding school
it was TIG welded, he told me he could grind it flat but it wouldn't be as strong. He said he got good penetration and it went a lot smoother than he anticipated. So I took his advice and told him I'd rather it be sturdy than look good.
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