"fixie culture"
#52
hang up your boots
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From: San Francisco
Bikes: 84 Pinarello, Trek Liquid 30, Torker CX 24, Gromada Track
Originally Posted by [165]
poseur
w-a-n-k-e-r
#53
Originally Posted by Jose R
This makes you a player. So what if a roadie drops his chain to a harder gear...why be so concerned about his insecurities.
So, you basically stalked them to challenge them on your commute...maybe, they just didn't want to deal with your nonsense.
Maybe they were hammerheads, maybe they were a**holes, maybe they were just out for a group ride and didn't want to be messed with. And maybe I'm being overly critical, but just let it go and ride.
And as far as wearing a full-kit, how is that any different than wearing a customized messenger bag on your back (or wearing the full "posenger" kit of cut-offs with appropriate hip tee-shirt, chain around the waist and cycling cap) ...there does seem to be a double-standard here.
I wear full-kits on some of my rides for various reasons: comfort, fit, practicality, and I like to support the clothing manufacturers and corporate sponsors that fund professional cycling. Its trickle down theory...where would recreational cycling be if none of these companies invested their money in the sport. We don't live or ride in a vacuum.
I ride with friends, ride alone, and sometimes I hook-up with strangers along 9W or in CP. Its all good. For the most part, people don't give a damn what you're riding or wearing, or at least that's been the case in my experience.
And finally the truth comes out!
So, you basically stalked them to challenge them on your commute...maybe, they just didn't want to deal with your nonsense.
Maybe they were hammerheads, maybe they were a**holes, maybe they were just out for a group ride and didn't want to be messed with. And maybe I'm being overly critical, but just let it go and ride.
And as far as wearing a full-kit, how is that any different than wearing a customized messenger bag on your back (or wearing the full "posenger" kit of cut-offs with appropriate hip tee-shirt, chain around the waist and cycling cap) ...there does seem to be a double-standard here.
I wear full-kits on some of my rides for various reasons: comfort, fit, practicality, and I like to support the clothing manufacturers and corporate sponsors that fund professional cycling. Its trickle down theory...where would recreational cycling be if none of these companies invested their money in the sport. We don't live or ride in a vacuum.
I ride with friends, ride alone, and sometimes I hook-up with strangers along 9W or in CP. Its all good. For the most part, people don't give a damn what you're riding or wearing, or at least that's been the case in my experience.
And finally the truth comes out!
when i used to train hard...ie rode more than 250+ miles per week, i used to love to chop it up on trainning rides, with anyone that would give me the time of day or an ear...even when i would take club rides, none of the guys that raced did so on street, for the most part...however even i would go ballzout for the last sprint of the day when the last one that finished picked up the first round....its always been about fun with me, i haven't raced...i raced bmx for a bit, but then the motorcycle bug bit....then cars....cycling for me now is kind of like coming full circle, to me everyone that swings a leg over shares with me at least one thing in common...all the rest, clicks, groups little clubs with fancy handshakes..stops before i offend anyone...
as for the double standard...all that stuff requires taste and some sort of eye...which i don't have..nor the $$$ to spend it on...i have too many vices and expensive habits to get caught up...and if i wear anything promoting anything....i have to be getting paid to do so...no more freebies....
i wish my foot wasn't hurting so much so that i could get off this damn computer and go ride...although i am medicating and will not be here for too much longer, almost can ride.....just a bit more....
#55
deep fried goodness
Joined: Oct 2004
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From: emerald city
Bikes: rosemary (bstone); fat chance; serotta
Originally Posted by bostontrevor
I just happened across this today and I think there's a lot overlap between Grant Peterson's Bridgestone and the attitude that many fixed gear riders who "get it" have.
Or maybe not. But it's a good read anyhow.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgest...neepitaph.html
(Did I mention punk rock Rivendell?
)
Or maybe not. But it's a good read anyhow.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgest...neepitaph.html
(Did I mention punk rock Rivendell?
)
#56
i like stuff.
Joined: Sep 2004
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From: nyc
Originally Posted by ostro
My roadie has two sets of wheels, but I don’t get
any monthly flats, my roadie hardly even used
My roadie got lots of extra gears. they took my
cassette and made it cog and lock ring. turning roadie into Fixie
Operation succesfull, but now I gotta pedal through the hills, gotta remember to sprint at the base
and when I ride my fixie up hill I go from
side to side cause I don’t wanna walk it up.
I'll never miss my stack of gears
I trade it for a flip flop hub
Now I got to hang with Fixie forum
Conversion paid up front now
I show all the roadies my new fixie ride
They think I’m kinda weird but that’s
Ok with me cause now I kick their ass wtihout shifting
Nothing finer than having a Fixie!
any monthly flats, my roadie hardly even used
My roadie got lots of extra gears. they took my
cassette and made it cog and lock ring. turning roadie into Fixie
Operation succesfull, but now I gotta pedal through the hills, gotta remember to sprint at the base
and when I ride my fixie up hill I go from
side to side cause I don’t wanna walk it up.
I'll never miss my stack of gears
I trade it for a flip flop hub
Now I got to hang with Fixie forum
Conversion paid up front now
I show all the roadies my new fixie ride
They think I’m kinda weird but that’s
Ok with me cause now I kick their ass wtihout shifting
Nothing finer than having a Fixie!
#57
King of the Hipsters
Joined: Jan 2005
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From: Bend, Oregon
Bikes: Realm Cycles Custom
I like ostro's and Harlot's recent posts.
In my business we call each other *****s, and some think that means we do it for the money and others think it means we'll do anything for the ride.
In the case of fixies, I find the machine itself compellingly beautiful.
If I couldn't ride it, I'd keep it in my living room as an art object.
I wish it hadn't become a fad, as people from the Big City describe it, 'cause somehow that makes it dirty.
But then, to paraphrase Mort Sahl, a little dirty sometimes makes it better.
In my business we call each other *****s, and some think that means we do it for the money and others think it means we'll do anything for the ride.
In the case of fixies, I find the machine itself compellingly beautiful.
If I couldn't ride it, I'd keep it in my living room as an art object.
I wish it hadn't become a fad, as people from the Big City describe it, 'cause somehow that makes it dirty.
But then, to paraphrase Mort Sahl, a little dirty sometimes makes it better.
#58
Nameless

Joined: Jul 2004
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From: Dallas, TX
Bikes: SS Road bike (nothing outstanding), Fixed Batavus (1970)
Originally Posted by ostro
Why does everything have to be so complicated for such a simple bike! 
The social dynamics are more complicated then they appear on the surface. There are definately clicks within the click. There is more "hardline" group and several degrees of spiraling outward. In my observations, it seems the fundamentalists are at the track level, then there are the messengers, who adopted fixed gears for simplicity and responsiveness, then you have the hotrod mentality hipsters, with the rare vintage parts from obscure manufactures and then you have the cross over fellas, who ride all sorts of bikes who just wanted to add a different steed to the collection or just to try another style of riding, then there are the roadies using fixed gears for off season training.
This is my observation, it is by no means complete, refined or true to reality. Please add edit or correct my observations. not meant to offend anyone.

The social dynamics are more complicated then they appear on the surface. There are definately clicks within the click. There is more "hardline" group and several degrees of spiraling outward. In my observations, it seems the fundamentalists are at the track level, then there are the messengers, who adopted fixed gears for simplicity and responsiveness, then you have the hotrod mentality hipsters, with the rare vintage parts from obscure manufactures and then you have the cross over fellas, who ride all sorts of bikes who just wanted to add a different steed to the collection or just to try another style of riding, then there are the roadies using fixed gears for off season training.
This is my observation, it is by no means complete, refined or true to reality. Please add edit or correct my observations. not meant to offend anyone.
#59
Senior Member

Joined: Jun 2003
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From: Atlanta
Bikes: Zeus (Razesa) tarck, Giant TCR road, Eddy Merckx road, Fuji Touring Series IV for everything else
Originally Posted by 165
I have 3 bikes
all three are track bikes
I have owned geared bikes in the past, and may do so again in the future
I like most people that ride bikes
I am glad there are others who ride bikes too
I enjoy riding bikes with others
talking about bikes is good too
I wear what I have
I like most people in here
all three are track bikes
I have owned geared bikes in the past, and may do so again in the future
I like most people that ride bikes
I am glad there are others who ride bikes too
I enjoy riding bikes with others
talking about bikes is good too
I wear what I have
I like most people in here
tim
#60
Ride it, don't fondle it!
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: Grand Junction, CO
Bikes: Raleigh M80, Bacchetta AERO, Bacchetta GIRO, BikeE, 83' TREK 970, Catrike Speed, IRO Fixie/SS
Originally Posted by MQracing
Ouch. Those red and white outfits in post number 8 hurt my eyes more than the hassledork photos from like two weeks ago. I'd rather ride bareassed.
msl
msl
Jude
#61
Originally Posted by jrowedc
Msngr, do you guys wear jeans on your Sunday rides to Nyack?
#62
King of the Hipsters
Joined: Jan 2005
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From: Bend, Oregon
Bikes: Realm Cycles Custom
My Pista feels really springy and absorbs a lot of bumps, but when I ride without my bike shorts I feel it a lot more.
I bought some very light padded elastic bike shorts from Nashbar that I can wear all day under either regular trousers or baggy shorts if I have to, and I forget I have them on.
The maker intended them as underwear.
Besides the padding, the elastic bike shorts just keep everything nice and tidy, and where it belongs.
Nuthin' gets pinched or squashed.
Usually, I wear big baggy shorts as outerwear, except in freezing weather and then I wear windproof bib tights and baggy shorts.
I bought some very light padded elastic bike shorts from Nashbar that I can wear all day under either regular trousers or baggy shorts if I have to, and I forget I have them on.
The maker intended them as underwear.
Besides the padding, the elastic bike shorts just keep everything nice and tidy, and where it belongs.
Nuthin' gets pinched or squashed.
Usually, I wear big baggy shorts as outerwear, except in freezing weather and then I wear windproof bib tights and baggy shorts.
#64
there are snobs all across the boards... just different types.
however i find this forum the most useful because people here seem to actually ride and wrench their bikes. thus i can give or find advice when wrenching my own bikes.
in the roadie forum there is a higher abundance of incredibly moron posts... real examples here:
-columbus brain vs sl vs slx vs thron vs platinum vs true temper avr... what should i look for
-im afraid of down tube shifter, when i reach down to shift i almost wreck myself
-when should i shift? there are too many gears - how do i choose
-help--i fall at stop lights with clipless pedals
-i have a trek 1000 -- where does it rank?
-what does 700x25 mean? will 700x28 make me faster?
-why do people hate Sora?
so i have this conception that most of the posters on that forum are mid-aged men who haven't the first clue as to what a bicycle is... the same kind who walk into a bike store, get sold on a 1500$ bike, buy 500$ in additional accessories, fall off the instant they ride out the store, and give up the sport a week later.
of course there are a few very knowledgeable guys there, but if i want some help servicing a hub, or correctly dishing a wheel, i'd find better answers here
however i find this forum the most useful because people here seem to actually ride and wrench their bikes. thus i can give or find advice when wrenching my own bikes.
in the roadie forum there is a higher abundance of incredibly moron posts... real examples here:
-columbus brain vs sl vs slx vs thron vs platinum vs true temper avr... what should i look for
-im afraid of down tube shifter, when i reach down to shift i almost wreck myself
-when should i shift? there are too many gears - how do i choose
-help--i fall at stop lights with clipless pedals
-i have a trek 1000 -- where does it rank?
-what does 700x25 mean? will 700x28 make me faster?
-why do people hate Sora?
so i have this conception that most of the posters on that forum are mid-aged men who haven't the first clue as to what a bicycle is... the same kind who walk into a bike store, get sold on a 1500$ bike, buy 500$ in additional accessories, fall off the instant they ride out the store, and give up the sport a week later.
of course there are a few very knowledgeable guys there, but if i want some help servicing a hub, or correctly dishing a wheel, i'd find better answers here
#65
"so i have this conception that most of the posters on that forum are mid-aged men who haven't the first clue as to what a bicycle is... the same kind who walk into a bike store, get sold on a 1500$ bike, buy 500$ in additional accessories, fall off the instant they ride out the store, and give up the sport a week later."
This is as much the fault of the shop. Part of our purpose is to educate, not just sell stuff.
This is as much the fault of the shop. Part of our purpose is to educate, not just sell stuff.
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#66
Originally Posted by redfooj
"there are snobs all across the boards... just different types.
however i find this forum the most useful because people here seem to actually ride and wrench their bikes. thus i can give or find advice when wrenching my own bikes. "
however i find this forum the most useful because people here seem to actually ride and wrench their bikes. thus i can give or find advice when wrenching my own bikes. "
Originally Posted by redfooj
"in the roadie forum there is a higher abundance of incredibly moron posts... real examples here:
-im afraid of down tube shifter, when i reach down to shift i almost wreck myself "
Ouch. That hurt. Really. I believe I said that I was afraid of crashing when I tried to shift--because I almost did. Go outside sometime, ask a person who hasn't ridden a bike in about ten years to jump on a bike with dowtube shifters. Tell them to shift gears. See if they don't almost crash or actually crash. No, I'd guess that you couldn't find anyone like that because you don't know anyone outside of your group of 'cooler-than-all-****' bicycle buddies.
In fact, I was pretty proud of the fact that I was even willing to risk it. But I don't feel like getting too defensive about this. Just wanted to point out that maybe some of us switched to fixed gear because it just seemed a lot simpler. Don't even have to worry about downtube shifters anymore!
But, really, thanks for calling me out. I've got several subtle hints that my neophyte's inquisitiveness is not highly regarded in the past several days, so I'm going to refrain for awhile. Let all you superior non-morons spin your yarns of beauty and grace. Maybe I'll cruise down the block and see if any of the little BMX punks have a little less of an attitude. I know that most inclusive people/groups generally use the term "moron" to refer to others. (Or did you mean, "moronic"?) Yeah, that's tolerance.
(sentence edited out by p.)
NOTE from p: I apologize herein for the statement above. Please see my post further on for a full apology.
Dic--oh, never mind.
Last edited by peripatetic; 03-04-05 at 08:22 AM. Reason: bad usage
#67
Dont take it personal. I didnt mean to make a statement against you or your character. That question per se that you posted... i found dumb and of no use to me personally. There are more of those on that board than there are here. Hence I prefer this (more informative) board. If you want to know: my friend started on a way-too-small 10 year old bike with DT shifters and didnt have difficulties... neither did I when I started on a way-too-large 10 year old bike. Our current bikes are low end compared to other people's bikes here, and we dont dress in proper road racing gear nor do we dress in proper 'urban cycling' gear. If you want to paint me as an elitist for thinking that the road board is filled with idiocy then so be it. hell... the title of 'cooler-than-all-****' actually sounds pretty nice
Originally Posted by peripatetic
Ouch. That hurt. Really. I believe I said that I was afraid of crashing when I tried to shift--because I almost did. Go outside sometime, ask a person who hasn't ridden a bike in about ten years to jump on a bike with dowtube shifters. Tell them to shift gears. See if they don't almost crash or actually crash. No, I'd guess that you couldn't find anyone like that because you don't know anyone outside of your group of 'cooler-than-all-****' bicycle buddies.
#68
hang up your boots
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From: San Francisco
Bikes: 84 Pinarello, Trek Liquid 30, Torker CX 24, Gromada Track
Did we mention the pie was great here!
#69
King of the Hipsters
Joined: Jan 2005
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From: Bend, Oregon
Bikes: Realm Cycles Custom
I got back into riding in my fifties.
I had never ridden clipless before and I fell about five times.
Everyone I knew ridiculed me for riding a bike, and they still might, for all I know.
I think I looked uncomfortable and incompetent on my bike, and it invited rude comments from people as they drove past me in their cars.
I suppose some people see a middle aged man in midlife crisis, or whatever they call it.
A neighbor two houses up the street rides Harley Davidsons.
He recently bought a new black Harley Davidson Road King.
By coincidence, as I rode past his house the other day, he rumbled out of his driveway dressed in black leathers with a black helmet.
For a moment we rolled together, flying in formation, I silently on my minimalist steel pony and he thunderously on his massive stallion.
I realized I had made the right choice.
I had never ridden clipless before and I fell about five times.
Everyone I knew ridiculed me for riding a bike, and they still might, for all I know.
I think I looked uncomfortable and incompetent on my bike, and it invited rude comments from people as they drove past me in their cars.
I suppose some people see a middle aged man in midlife crisis, or whatever they call it.
A neighbor two houses up the street rides Harley Davidsons.
He recently bought a new black Harley Davidson Road King.
By coincidence, as I rode past his house the other day, he rumbled out of his driveway dressed in black leathers with a black helmet.
For a moment we rolled together, flying in formation, I silently on my minimalist steel pony and he thunderously on his massive stallion.
I realized I had made the right choice.
#70
Tiocfáidh ár Lá

Joined: Dec 2003
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From: The edge of b#
Bikes: A whole bunch-a bikes.
Originally Posted by Ken Cox
I got back into riding in my fifties.
I had never ridden clipless before and I fell about five times.
Everyone I knew ridiculed me for riding a bike, and they still might, for all I know.
I think I looked uncomfortable and incompetent on my bike, and it invited rude comments from people as they drove past me in their cars.
I suppose some people see a middle aged man in midlife crisis, or whatever they call it.
A neighbor two houses up the street rides Harley Davidsons.
He recently bought a new black Harley Davidson Road King.
By coincidence, as I rode past his house the other day, he rumbled out of his driveway dressed in black leathers with a black helmet.
For a moment we rolled together, flying in formation, I silently on my minimalist steel pony and he thunderously on his massive stallion.
I realized I had made the right choice.
I had never ridden clipless before and I fell about five times.
Everyone I knew ridiculed me for riding a bike, and they still might, for all I know.
I think I looked uncomfortable and incompetent on my bike, and it invited rude comments from people as they drove past me in their cars.
I suppose some people see a middle aged man in midlife crisis, or whatever they call it.
A neighbor two houses up the street rides Harley Davidsons.
He recently bought a new black Harley Davidson Road King.
By coincidence, as I rode past his house the other day, he rumbled out of his driveway dressed in black leathers with a black helmet.
For a moment we rolled together, flying in formation, I silently on my minimalist steel pony and he thunderously on his massive stallion.
I realized I had made the right choice.
#71
Originally Posted by mcatano
Making fun of black people is always hilarious AND appropriate, right?
m.
m.
I'll shut up now.
#73
Direct Hit Not Required

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,193
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From: San Bruno, CA
Bikes: Leopard DC1, Ridley X-Fire, GT Zaskar 9r
Originally Posted by Ken Cox
I got back into riding in my fifties.
I had never ridden clipless before and I fell about five times.
Everyone I knew ridiculed me for riding a bike, and they still might, for all I know.
I think I looked uncomfortable and incompetent on my bike, and it invited rude comments from people as they drove past me in their cars.
I suppose some people see a middle aged man in midlife crisis, or whatever they call it.
A neighbor two houses up the street rides Harley Davidsons.
He recently bought a new black Harley Davidson Road King.
By coincidence, as I rode past his house the other day, he rumbled out of his driveway dressed in black leathers with a black helmet.
For a moment we rolled together, flying in formation, I silently on my minimalist steel pony and he thunderously on his massive stallion.
I realized I had made the right choice.
I had never ridden clipless before and I fell about five times.
Everyone I knew ridiculed me for riding a bike, and they still might, for all I know.
I think I looked uncomfortable and incompetent on my bike, and it invited rude comments from people as they drove past me in their cars.
I suppose some people see a middle aged man in midlife crisis, or whatever they call it.
A neighbor two houses up the street rides Harley Davidsons.
He recently bought a new black Harley Davidson Road King.
By coincidence, as I rode past his house the other day, he rumbled out of his driveway dressed in black leathers with a black helmet.
For a moment we rolled together, flying in formation, I silently on my minimalist steel pony and he thunderously on his massive stallion.
I realized I had made the right choice.
#74
Traffic shark

Joined: May 2001
Posts: 4,612
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From: California
Bikes: 2 fixies, 1 road, 29er in the works.
Originally Posted by Schiek
I'd feel silly going to toe-to-toe-clip with a cab driver while decked out in a Mapei skin-suit. If you can pull it off, more power to you. Same goes for changing a flat in some of the neighborhoods I ride through everyday. Looking like a lycra-clad peacock would draw unwanted attention. Some of what you express in your post may not be an anti-roadie push as much as an environmental reality. Many (not all) on this forum ride exclusively in urban settings, and pimped-out roadie ***** doesn't seem to play well in the big city. And as MKRG said, we like giving each other and anybody else a hard time, so take a lot of the negativity here with a cow-pasture-sized salt-lick. If you can't mock, what point is there of going on?
Well said Sheeeck!
You're second only to Hayme now!!!
#75
Traffic shark

Joined: May 2001
Posts: 4,612
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From: California
Bikes: 2 fixies, 1 road, 29er in the works.
Originally Posted by gilby
I only ride a fixed gear bike because it's a total chick magnet.
I ride a fixed gear because it's an articulated bus magnet.
Niether the guys, nor the women, are particularly interested in me...





