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EDIT: Ah, nm I see you already bought something.

yeah it was between the madison or the windsor plus. the windsor plus is 60$ shipped cheaper but I like risers, deep v's, and lower gear ration. still chromoly frame.

basically I dont have to do anything to to bike except set it up and ride. with the windsor I knew I would have to change to gear ratio at least which would cost $ and the madison is much sexier 2013 model in grey. wahaewaaww

and a set of deep v tires cost like 200$ alone ive seen so 100$ more for a chromoly frame seems like a pretty good deal. the seat looks of higher quality as well.

Actually, SE's site simply says

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[TD="align: left"]Urban Single Speed Design, Butted Top Tube and Down Tube, Water Bottle & Fender Mounts, Wide Tire Clearance[/TD]
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and doesn't specify frame material.

Perhaps, but don't you think they'd be trumpeting the frame material if it was chromoly steel. Also, they do say:

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[TD="align: left"]SE straight Leg Hi-Ten w/ Fender Mounts & Wide Tire Clearance[/TD]
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Also, on the more expensive SE Lager they say:

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[TD="bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: left"]FRAME[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]New 2014 Urban Single Speed Design, Butted Top Tube and Down Tube, Cr-Mo Seat Tube, Integrated Seat Clamp, Water Bottle & Fender Mounts, Wide Tire Clearance[/TD]
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That's fine and dandy - but I was just pointing out that it's not always as easy as going to the manufacturer's site (as you suggested) to get more info if you don't know what you're looking for in the first place.

And I was just pointing out that you can't count on information being accurate that is shown on third party websites.

Especially when the manufacturer' site shows no information.

Hey Scrodzilla, yeah I just thought I didnt know what I was reading on SE's website because it doesnt tell you what kind of material now the new SE lites are made out of. But anyways, it was actually your Madison thread that you started that made me want to get the Madison. I thank you ha!

Except that the older Madisons that are shown in Scrod's thread were nicer, but still the newer ones like you bought will be much better than the SE Draft Lite that you fortunately didn't buy. Anyways, I'm sure you'll be very happy with your choice. Just make sure you get a good lock.

I bought the OnGuard Bulldog mini u-lock and cable combo and front and rear lights

I like carnitas.

here she is:

I work at mexican restaurant sooo next time your in SF I got your fix on lock! Butt in reality, you like pork butt lol. Me, I dont dine on swine!

Pastor is 10x better than carnitas. As long as it's the real deal shaved off a rotating spit of meat

No it's not. +1 to Carnitas.

Real deal al pastor is also delicious.

Looks nice. Be sure to post actual photos when you get it.

You're right, but not anywhere near "10x better" or even better at all, for that matter.

I also like chile verde. Pork is good. Carnitas is the bacon of Mexico.

Lets transfer this pissing match to subjective matters, like taste.

ya in mexico those were street tacos and they were amazing and super cheapp. We dont have a big rotating thing of meet, and I guess street tacos are technically taqitos, not what gringos think of as taqitos as like a rolled corn tortilla. We got that chile verde too and we got one your local mexican place dont got called chile colorado! all very popular, our line is always out the door!

Im a film maker and I like photography, soo actually the old skewl white tire look of olds cars was a factor in my purchase because I wanted that classy look for photos. and the tires should hopefully provide a smooth ride on some sketchy city streets.

I got the bike today in the mail. Ill probably post a video or some pics later of set up. I went out and and supported my local bike shop and got some tri flow oil and grease. Any tips while I set this up?

Beer

yerpp a six did the trick. rode the bike, everything works, just havent installed the front brake yet fully.

im happy to find the bike is part of their signature line, if that makes any difference and comes with a lifetime warranty. so thats a plus.