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Old 04-11-14 | 10:52 AM
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Quick question about hubs

I'm currently looking to buy a particular rear wheel. I want a flip flop hub but the seller tells me they only have the track hub available. I was told it can switch to single speed but no freewheel. this confused me. Can I or can't I use this track hub to ride with a freewheel. I want to be able to coast
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You can thread a freewheel on the fixed side without issue.
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Old 04-11-14 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Cynikal
You can thread a freewheel on the fixed side without issue.
Here's the hub specs Hub:
"Novatec: A166SBT Alloy Track hub

Rear:O.L.D: 120mm weight:235g

Black color"

so a bike mechanic would have no problem threading a freewheel? Would like to know before I purchase. Item is coming from china
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Considering the only tool you need to install a freewheel is your hand, you wouldn't have any problems doing it yourself.

So you know, that model is threaded on both sides. Novatec doesn't even make a single-sided track hub.
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It will work just fine. Grease the threads and just spin it on. It's a 2 sided hub, go crazy and do it twice.
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Old 04-11-14 | 11:18 AM
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So you know, that model is threaded on both sides. Novatec doesn't even make a single-sided track hub.
Does this mean I can ride with free wheel or no? Seller is telling me I can ride single speed but no free wheel
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Originally Posted by Jgovia
the seller tells me they only have the track hub available. I was told it can switch to single speed but no freewheel. this confused me. Can I or can't I use this track hub to ride with a freewheel.
He means a single-speed freewheel is OK, not a cluster.

You can do it, but the threads probably won't engage all the way - see how much wider the threads are on the freewheel side of a flip flop? Not ideal, not a huge deal.

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Old 04-11-14 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Jgovia
Does this mean I can ride with free wheel or no? Seller is telling me I can ride single speed but no free wheel
Dude, how many times do we need to tell you? Yes, you can thread a freewheel onto fixed threads without any problems.

For the record, single speed typically means freewheel. Fixed gear means a fixed cog and lockring. Once again, you can thread a freewheel onto fixed threads without any problems.

In case you missed it, you can thread a freewheel onto fixed threads without any problems.
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Old 04-11-14 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
He means a single-speed freewheel is OK, not a cluster.

You can do it, but the threads probably won't engage all the way - see how much wider the threads are on the freewheel side of a flip flop? Not ideal, not a huge deal.

am I better off purchasing a flip flop hub then? Can I use the flip flop hub from my old wheel? The way you described it, it sounds like there CAN be an issue. I don't want any possible issue
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For the record, single speed typically means freewheel. Fixed gear means a fixed cog and lockring.
The communication problem is "freewheel" doesn't typically mean "single speed".
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Old 04-11-14 | 11:29 AM
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Dude, how many times do we need to tell you? Yes, you can thread a freewheel onto fixed threads without any problems.

For the record, single speed typically means freewheel. Fixed gear means a fixed cog and lockring. Once again, you can thread a freewheel onto fixed threads without any problems.

In case you missed it, you can thread a freewheel onto fixed threads without any problems.
Appreciate your response. You're one of the nicer members on here
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am I better off purchasing a flip flop hub then? Can I use the flip flop hub from my old wheel? The way you described it, it sounds like there CAN be an issue. I don't want any possible issue
That hub in your first post is a flip flop - I assumed it was fixed-fixed, but googling shows fixed-free - so it's just like the Surly in the photo. Enjoy your new wheel and single speed freewheel.
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Actually, Novatec makes the A166SBT in both fixed/fixed and fixed/free.

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Old 04-11-14 | 11:39 AM
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That hub in your first post is a flip flop - I assumed it was fixed-fixed, but googling shows fixed-free - so it's just like the Surly in the photo. Enjoy your new wheel and single speed freewheel.
Here's the track hub photo that was sent to me https://i.imgur.com/7Hjd2sE.jpg
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Fixed/free. I maintain that you can still install a single speed freewheel on either side without any problems.
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On the right side of the hub are the SS threads. They are visible in the photo. I understand that all this can be confusing due to the different vocabulary being used but just get the hub you have identified. This is a good example of why buying things over the web can be more difficult. In a shop they would just pull out the hub and show you and it would make sense.
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Actually, Novatec makes the A166SBT in both fixed/fixed and fixed/free.
And they use the same model number for both versions?

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Originally Posted by Cynikal
On the right side of the hub are the SS threads. They are visible in the photo. I understand that all this can be confusing due to the different vocabulary being used but just get the hub you have identified. This is a good example of why buying things over the web can be more difficult. In a shop they would just pull out the hub and show you and it would make sense.
Exactly. You get it. I came here to clarify (expected the usual bike snob comments). The person I'm dealing with barely knows any English. I'd hate to purchase something I couldn't use to only send back because of a variable. Thanks for the answers.
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And they use the same model number for both versions?

Yes, Just as Shimano uses 7600 for all high flange Dura Ace track hubs, regardless of them being fixed/fixed or single sided.

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Originally Posted by Jgovia
am I better off purchasing a flip flop hub then? Can I use the flip flop hub from my old wheel? The way you described it, it sounds like there CAN be an issue. I don't want any possible issue
The only issue with running a single freewheel on a hub designed to use a fixed cog and lockring is that fewer threads are engaged on the freewheel. It is unlikely to be a problem unless you have legs like this:



Even then I wouldn't anticipate problems since the freewheel would be engaging the same number of threads that a fixed cog would engage if it were mounted.
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