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jbedry 05-04-14 12:20 PM

Filing Horizontal Dropout Clarification
 
Hey all, I've read a few threads stating that when filing dropouts, to be sure to file the bottom one. I am a bit confused by that, however. Does that mean you file the "bottom" of the top dropout, or the "top" of the bottom dropout? Does that make sense? If the axle sits on an uneven bottom dropout, would that not cause the wheel to be uneven?

Thanks!

SquidPuppet 05-04-14 12:37 PM

I am trying to make sure I understand you before I give advice. Do you want to file a dropout because your wheel is not lining up evenly between the seat stays?

jbedry 05-04-14 12:42 PM

My rear axle does not slide into the dropout of a brand new frame, appears to be a bit of paint buildup.

Bandera 05-04-14 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by jbedry (Post 16727344)
Does that make sense?

No, put the file away.
Dish the wheel properly & install in the frame so it's lined up evenly between the chainstays with the correct chain tension/chain line & tighten the axle nuts. Use a half-link if necessary.

-Bandera

jbedry 05-04-14 12:49 PM

I think I may have given the wrong idea... so I'll start from the top.
My rear wheel's axle is too big for my rear dropouts. I've heard on new frames that this is not uncommon, sometimes do to excess paint on the dropouts after coating. People have suggested filing down the excess paint, so my question is which side of the droupouts do I file? My confusion was with the suggestion that it is the bottom that needs to be filed. So I am wondering if I file the "bottom" of the top dropouts or the "top" of the bottom dropouts.

SquidPuppet 05-04-14 12:53 PM

Gotcha. File the top of the bottom tang.

When the bike is weighted, the bottom of the top tang will rest on the axle, so do NOT file there, as that will cause the misalignment you correctly suspected would occur.

jbedry 05-04-14 12:57 PM

Great! I understand now. Thanks Squid!

Bandera 05-04-14 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by jbedry (Post 16727408)
I think I may have given the wrong idea... so I'll start from the top.
My rear wheel's axle is too big for my rear dropouts. I've heard on new frames that this is not uncommon, sometimes do to excess paint on the dropouts after coating.

If excess paint is preventing axle insertion taking the least destructive path to remove it is wise, unless accidental damage & rust don't matter to you. Take a deep breath & think it through. Deft & careful strokes w/ a keen flat file may well answer but an x-acto knife might w/ patience be a better tool. It's paint, not metal you want to remove.

BTW: Lousy QC on a new frame, wonder what else slipped by.......:(

-Bandera

SquidPuppet 05-04-14 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by jbedry (Post 16727426)
Great! I understand now. Thanks Squid!

No problem. Just curious, what kind of frame and wheel?

jbedry 05-04-14 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by SquidPuppet (Post 16727437)
No problem. Just curious, what kind of frame and wheel?

It's a 2011 Kona Bandwagon that I've been sitting on for a few years and a Velocity wheel/formula hub.

SquidPuppet 05-04-14 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by jbedry (Post 16727438)
It's a 2011 Kona Bandwagon that I've been sitting on for a few years and a Velocity wheel/formula hub.

So we are talking about removing just a zilimeter then. ;)

jbedry 05-04-14 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by SquidPuppet (Post 16727448)
So we are talking about removing just a zilimeter then. ;)

Yes sir. They're almost in there... just need some help.

SquidPuppet 05-04-14 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by jbedry (Post 16727449)
Yes sir. They're almost in there... just need some help.

I had a frame that had dropouts that were welded in and they were misaligned vertically by about .8 mm. That tiny bit of axle tilt resulted in the wheel being WAY crooked between the seat stays. I did the exact opposite of what you are doing to solve my poblem. Now she is laser straight. :)


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