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Old 03-23-05 | 12:52 PM
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I got the cog and lockring on as tight as I can, but under super hard backpressure, like slamming backwards, almost standing on the crank, which is not something I one would do in normal riding, the cog still slips. It moves the cranks less than 1/8th of a turn, but it still makes me uneasy. Should I be worried, and is there a way to fix the problem? I mean, it won't even move during a skid or skip.
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Old 03-23-05 | 01:20 PM
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Yes, you should be worried. If it's not already, your hub will soon be be gargabe. It may be that you installed them poorly, or a quirk of the cog / lockring combo you are using. What brands are you using? Sometimes they don't play well together.
Or maybe it's nothing to worry about. Who can tell.
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Old 03-23-05 | 01:27 PM
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Is it the old surley cog? They tend to be thinner than other cogs allowing them to move. You can use a spacer or get a new cog.
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Old 03-23-05 | 01:36 PM
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I think I'll just get a spacer of some kind. It's really not much play, but enough. Thanks.
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Old 03-23-05 | 02:23 PM
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Is it a converted road hub or a "real" track/fixed gear hub? My normal method for cog/lockring installation on track hubs is to put a little anti-sieze on the threads, thread on the cog and tighten with a chainwip, thread on the lockring and tighten with a spanner, then take it out for a brief ride, using only the brake to stop (or my feet if there isn't a front brake) while not applying any backpressure. After a few minutes of pseudo-sprinting, the cog will be tightened as tight as it will ever go, I think crank the lockring down again and the setup is good to go.

I've found that if I skip the "riding around" step, I can get some play in the cog/lockring combo that will allow my cog to thread and unthread a little bit. I like the idea of jamming a spacer in there a little more than this, but a little less than just getting the parts you have to interact properly.

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Old 03-23-05 | 04:34 PM
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yes, its a real track hub. I cut a thick plastic spacer out of a milk jug and rode it around, its better, but not perfect. I think tonight I'll try that method, after a fast sprint home.
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Old 03-23-05 | 06:03 PM
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Just make sure to use your brake to stop (or a foot on the ground after "supermaning" for a bit if you don't have a brake) because applying backpressure by the pedals kind of ruins the whole sprinting-around-to-get-the-cog-screwed-on-tightly method.
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Old 03-23-05 | 08:28 PM
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Yeah, I gathered. Thanks for everyones help, I did a hard sprint while holding the brake, and while I most likely need new pads, I secured the cog firmly, and the lockring plus milk-jug spacer is on there tight as a drum. To test it, I got going, then pulled back, hard, with both legs, putting most of my weight on the back, WAYYY beyond any street move, and nothing happened except some spoke-settling sounds. Thanks again!
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