A little bit of my bicycle history, I started with a 05' Bianchi Super Pista then onto a IRO, Moth, Affinity Lo Pro, 90s GT GTB and now my FIRST NJS track bike is on transit! I'm throwing all my Nitto NJS parts including my Sugino 75, Nitto stem and drop down, etc. from my GTB bike to upcoming frame.

Since I'm new to NJS, I have a few questions...

- Are NJS frames still in production? This bike states "Model Year/2014" but I can not find anyone who owns one. I searched google images and tons of websites but I can't find it

Anchor Red Metallic 2014 {51.5cm** | NJS?EXPORT

- How heavy are NJS bikes compared to my previous owned bikes?

- Why are so many dents and scratches on NJS bikes? Even on spots I would never guess would have a dent.

- Why the high price? Perhaps because its made in Japan and most or all of them are handbuilt?

- Why are there shiny flakes on some of their frames?


I hope I didn't say anything ridiculous. I'll revise and edit the thread if anything.

Let's talk NJS.

New NJS bikes will always be produced as long as there are Japanese keirin races.

They're not especially light.

Dents and scratches because most of the NJS bikes available on the market have been used and crashed by keirin racers.

Price because they are high quality frames, and hipster tax.

Shiny flakes because they like fancy paint jobs.

Where can I purchase a new NJS frame ?

POS New Panasonic NJS Track Frame 460 630mm FPC03S 03H | eBay

NJS = overpaying for street cred

There are many NJS frames under $500.. so thats not true.

Not ones that aren't dented.

Is this deju vu? I remember a thread exactly like this...

I wanna see lol

i want an njs frame

Looking to increase you street cred eh?

- How heavy are NJS bikes compared to my previous owned bikes?

Depends on the tubeset. But I believe frame weight is governed to some extent for each size.
Choose 2 only: light, stiff, durable. NJS frames are usually the latter 2.

- Why are so many dents and scratches on NJS bikes? Even on spots I would never guess would have a dent.

Because NJS exporters from Japan buy used/ retired/ crashed frames (i.e. the ones that are roadworthy but not raceworthy failing NJS inspection) that would otherwise be recycled for their steel or sold in a domestic second hand store on the cheap for profit; Japanese culture does not value used things whatsoever. For example, if you're into tuning Japanese cars and the JDM scene, you would know that you can acquire slightly used performance/OEM parts for pennies on the dollar. Gets even better if you're able to buy a container load of stuff.

You're in effect buying a professional keirin racer's beat up ride that they rode the living-**** out of on the daily for training & races. Would you like his NJS socks as well?

- Why the high price? Perhaps because its made in Japan and most or all of them are handbuilt?

Hype. Buyer's perceived rarity. Supply & demand. I recently sold a $150 g shock for close to $500.

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What are you bumping? Leuky already gave you the best answer to all your dumb questions.

He added a link to the bike he possibly bought. Judging from the pictures, more especially this one:


This definitely is not kosher for NJS sanctioned events.
Unlucky frameset anyhow being 2014 and the time it takes for NJS export to get their wares.
Probably got in a crash with only a handful of races under its belt.


~You should keep your GT....~

And strip off that horrible DIY hack paint job and have it professionally finished.

NJS frames are great. They're light, they're stiff, they're fast, and they're strong.

Don't ride one as a street bike. If you're going to ride one off the track, it should be taken on long rides and well cared for.

As Leuky already pointed out above, NJS frames aren't particularly light. Also, how is a frame "fast"?

This thread is so dumb.

Also the opposite of this. They are mainly good for street cred. They are useless on an American track. They are too aggressive for a long ride. You don't get street cred by not riding on the street.

I meant they're light considering how strong and stiff they are. That's all.

It's fast cause it's NJS. Anything with the stamp automatically makes you go 2 mph faster.

No such thing as too aggressive for long rides. Long wheel bases are for old people. A cannondale supersix is probably around as tight as an NJS frame.

You pick out a bike that is designed for sprinting as an example of a good bike for long rides?

Jesus Christ, dude. I hope I never talk to you in person.

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Haha, dude what? Am I wrong..? Are NJS frames too aggressive for long rides?