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Wallonthefloor 08-04-14 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 17004872)
I got annoyed at the artful photo of a mass produced Giant as an excuse for not running a back brake. Had it been an boutique, historic, or unique bike I'd get it but it's none of those things it's just a run of the mill bike like my Trek. I don't care if you use brakes or you don't just don't complain about skidding and your tires if you have a perfectly viable front brake as he does.

Only the frame is original. It is a nice first fixie for me, and weighing in 10 pounds lighter than my Giant roadie, I enjoy switching between the two.

Wallonthefloor 08-04-14 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 17005400)
I can't wait until you post a thread talking about how your girlfriend crashed into you.

And, yeah...it's called skip skidding. "Bouncing" is something boobs do.

Thanks I didn't know that. At least something got explained. But there is not really much talked about on the internet about skip skidding on how it wears on a tire or how to even do it.

Flatulentfox 08-04-14 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Wallonthefloor (Post 17005605)
Thanks I didn't know that. At least something got explained. But there is not really much talked about on the internet about skip skidding on how it wears on a tire or how to even do it.

Skidding is skidding. The more weight on the tire while skidding will wear faster. If you are skip skidding you are in contact with the ground less and your tire will obviously wear less. It will also not slow you as much.

Common sense. There is no magic going on here.

mixedfix 08-04-14 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Wallonthefloor (Post 17005605)
Thanks I didn't know that. At least something got explained. But there is not really much talked about on the internet about skip skidding on how it wears on a tire or how to even do it.

Oh sure there is:

How to stop your Fixie - YouTube

This was literally the first video I found when I fixed my bike. No real information on how much it wears on your tire but it will show you how to do it. My experience has shown me that skip-stopping is far easier on your tires than skidding and easier to do ambidextrously (sp? ambipedily?), which, if you have a a gear ratio with an odd denominator, will double the number of patches on your bike. I run 45/17 right now--34 skid/skip/whatever patches. Don't believe me? Ask Sheldon's site.

I also run a front brake and use it, often. Riding a bicycle without a front brake is irresponsible, no matter how much fun it is.

Arguments regarding the relative price of brakes versus tires and whether or not you should skid at all will fall on deaf ears here. My bicycle is my only mode of transportation and I'll have fun with it however I damn well please.

TMonk 08-04-14 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by bmontgomery87 (Post 17004620)
If you want to rebuild your wheels every few months

What?

You should be able to ride a rim for a few years​ before it is toast due to brake pad wear.

bmontgomery87 08-04-14 05:08 PM

I wasn't referring to the rim being ruined completely, a lot of people don't want to ride on rims that are scratched up and look like ass from brakes.

Nagrom_ 08-04-14 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by TMonk (Post 17006146)
What?

You should be able to ride a rim for a few centuries​ before it is toast due to brake pad wear.


ftfy

this is bfssfg ffs.

GhostSS 08-04-14 10:36 PM

Are we talking about vintage rims here? Or a set of Velocity/Alex/H+ Sons?

Not that it matters, no one can really tell if your rims are worn or not when you're actually cycling.

TejanoTrackie 08-04-14 10:46 PM

Disc brakes - problem solved.

Scrodzilla 08-04-14 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 17007066)
Dick breaks- problem solved.

Fixed :)

hairnet 08-05-14 01:07 AM


Originally Posted by bmontgomery87 (Post 17006156)
I wasn't referring to the rim being ruined completely, a lot of people don't want to ride on rims that are scratched up and look like ass from brakes.

Ride more. Stare at your brake track less.

europa 08-05-14 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by hairnet (Post 17007261)
Ride more. Stare at your brake track less.

Please Mister Moderator sir, please condemn this thread to the fires of hell.

I must confess though, it's been a long time since we've had some many damned stupid arguments for not using a rear brake in one thread. Spoiling the paint job indeed. Maybe we should just let the fool kill himself, Darwinian principles and all that.

hairnet 08-05-14 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by europa (Post 17007340)
Please Mister Moderator sir, please condemn this thread to the fires of hell.

No more blue star Mister Aussie Sir.

bmontgomery87 08-05-14 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by europa (Post 17007340)
Maybe we should just let the fool kill himself, Darwinian principles and all that.

Those of us who can ride without brakes are better at adapting, thus we will survive :p

GENESTARWIND 08-05-14 05:07 AM

skidding or skip stopping is the least efficient way to stop a bicycle.

europa 08-05-14 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by GENESTARWIND (Post 17007425)
skidding or skip stopping is the least efficient way to stop a bicycle.

Running into the side of a car is the quickest ... though it has side effects that some consider 'unfortunate'.

europa 08-05-14 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by hairnet (Post 17007346)
No more blue star Mister Aussie Sir.

I was wondering about that. I trust it was merely your superior wisdom shaking off the shackles of moderatordom. (no need to answer of course)

TMonk 08-05-14 10:19 AM

I'm surprised it took into the 2nd page before this turned into a brakeless discussion.

The win-win solution is for everyone to ride with brakes, and for "brakes R deth" kind of riders to use their imagination and pretend it's not there.

Scrodzilla 08-05-14 10:33 AM

No, the actual win-win situation is for everyone to just do whatever the **** they want without caring what the internet thinks.

bmontgomery87 08-05-14 10:55 AM

^^We have a winner!

TMonk 08-05-14 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 17008339)
No, the actual win-win situation is for everyone to just do whatever the **** they want without caring what the internet thinks.

but what if what someone wants is stupid?

Scrodzilla 08-05-14 11:55 AM

Who cares?

We all think the OP is stupid, are telling him so and when this thread is over he'll probably just end up staying stupid. :lol:

TMonk 08-05-14 12:10 PM

ya i guess this is pretty harmless, so who cares

Jared. 08-05-14 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by TMonk (Post 17008573)
but what if what someone wants is stupid?

I let people do stupid stuff all the time. Two days ago a let two couples put their Cab Sav on ice because they like their wine "chilled".

TMonk 08-05-14 05:14 PM

not trying to start a philosophical conversation here, but what if what somebody wants is bad for other people?

riding brakeless and drinking a chilled cab are mostly harmless, but I stand by my point.


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