Yep... If I were the OP, I'd be looking around at some other options. Of the two presented, I would go with the cheaper, but I think there are better values out there for just a little more money (or the same money if you look hard enough). I landed a decent bike from Craigslist recently and have really enjoyed it. It's probably on-par with a Kilo Pro or something like that, but I got it for a good bit less than a Kilo and I didn't have to check my front wheel. LOL!

That is generally a true statement. I was making my statement toward all the BD fiends, who's only comment when someone asks about what bike to buy, is BD. How fast we forget the kid that stripped out all the fasteners on his kilo tt.

I'm going to assume that the member you're referring to was a... um... "special" case. But you're right. It takes all kinds.

Another excellent poll thread. Good job, everyone.

The Scrod is pleased. Rejoice, and be glad in it. Well done, all!

I'd suggest a state bike over a poor fix

Why does everyone always suggest more expensive bikes when someone does a poll like this. They obviously don't have the money for a better bike.

OP, just buy the cheaper one. They are both ****ty. Ride the hell out of it and get a job and save money for a nice bike.

Because most people would rather see newbies o on something of decent quality to start out on so they don't get burned out by a **** first bike and get turned off.

it's not difficult to wait a little longer and save an extra hundred or two.

Riding a s***ty, cheap bike has its benefits. I rode one for a little over a year.

It taught me what to want in a real bike and I sold it for what I had into it.

So just get the cheap one and beat the dick off it.

That way you don't spend 200 on a pile of **** then 400 plus later on. I dumped money into bikes because I didn't listen and don't want to see others make the same mistake.

You can spout all the rhetoric you'd like but nobody gets it right the first time around. My first fixed gear bike was a $200 piece of **** from eBay.

Sometimes mistakes are necessary because they either prove you're an idiot or they force you to learn valuable lessons you wouldn't have the opportunity to otherwise.

Learn by doing. Can't not f*** up all the time.

Plus threads like these usually mean someone has already made up their mind and no amount of forum speak will change that.

Especially when it is "Save up and spend money later."

Here's me tightening down my seatpost clamp on my new #kilott .

i use a 1/2" impact *** when i tighten fasteners and bolts on my bike. cant be to safe about things coming loose.

apparently *** is censored ?!?!?!?! impact tool??!?!

True... My first SS/FG was a conversion from a $5 Royce Union 3-speed I picked up at a garage sale. It was ugly as a mud fence and it rode like crap, but it taught me that crappy bikes are just that, crappy. I've had a couple of different bikes since then, each one a little better.

Let the dude get a $200 "fixie" and he'll either learn to love riding SS/FG and want something better or he'll learn that he hates riding SS/FG and trade it on CL for the latest copy of Call of Duty. I doubt a ****ty bike will turn him off from cycling completely. If anything, it will make him want to get something nicer even faster.

My first bike is still my current bike. Had it about 2 years now and guess what, its a purefix. Its pretty messed up and has a bent frame slightly now. I'm glad I started with a ****ty bike because I did a lot of stupid things and also crashed a lot, Including bad ones hence my bent frame.
I'm now saving and buying parts for a nice build, but I wouldn't change anything. If OP is asking between these bikes, I tell him to get the cheaper one and learn how to ride. It'll be that much more fun in the future when he can afford a decent build.