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cobrabyte 08-27-14 03:50 PM

With how much you're overthinking this build, thank God it's a single speed. A geared bike might make your head explode lol

seely 08-27-14 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by DScience (Post 17076332)
Ok I have a question. When I installed my 25c, for the first bead I was able to get about 75% seated in the rim. The remaining part was SOOOOOO hard to get above the rim. I had to literally use a tire lever and push/force the bead over the rim little by little. It took 30-40 minutes of brute force. After I was like, "I just made this tire my *****" because it was so hard. How did you do it??

Start at the valve hole when mounting a tire, and work outward, down toward the opposite end. The A23 is a tubeless ready design, so make sure the bead is down in that center channel as much as possible, vs. on the "shoulder" below the bead hook.

Scrodzilla 08-27-14 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by cobrabyte (Post 17076413)
With how much you're overthinking this build, thank God it's a single speed. A geared bike might make your head explode lol

Seriously. What the ****, man.

DScience 08-27-14 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by cobrabyte (Post 17076413)
With how much you're overthinking this build, thank God it's a single speed. A geared bike might make your head explode lol

What can I say, i'm a perfectionist. :innocent:


Originally Posted by seely (Post 17076425)
Start at the valve hole when mounting a tire, and work outward, down toward the opposite end. The A23 is a tubeless ready design, so make sure the bead is down in that center channel as much as possible, vs. on the "shoulder" below the bead hook.

This is impt! I did this exact technique, and that's where the problem lies. The bead WILL NOT COME OUT of the center channel, in certain parts of the whell/rim. That is the problem I am having!

Scrodzilla 08-27-14 06:46 PM

Again, use talcum powder on the bead.

DScience 08-27-14 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 17076810)
Again, use talcum powder on the bead.

Scrod should I take them off the rim and do that? I'm just afraid with how hard it was to get it on.

Scrodzilla 08-27-14 07:53 PM

If I facepalm any harder, I'll give myself a black eye.

Cute Boy Horse 08-27-14 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Flatulentfox (Post 17076140)
In a stall.

Full of Square taper cranks and threaded headsets.

DScience 08-27-14 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 17076974)
If I facepalm any harder, I'll give myself a black eye.

You're awesome bro! I'm definitely going to think of you next time I drop $400 on wheels! :thumb:


Man, you could do so much for your business if you treated people here with a little respect and kindness. Instead you use it to feed your ego. Good for you man, good for you.

Cultivate the positive abort the negative!

Scrodzilla 08-27-14 08:33 PM

That's where you're wrong. Kissing peoples' asses and telling them what they want to hear only breeds failure.

Instead of relying on bull**** disguised as "positivity", I choose to be a realist and am doing just fine.

Flatulentfox 08-27-14 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by DScience (Post 17075678)
I know it's a hassle, but I would appreciate if you measured your chainline.

Quick dirty, I got about 44mm at the crank and 42mm at the wheel (all city new sheriff hubs and eai 17t cog).

With the tire seating, any time you change a tube or tire, fill that b1tch up with talc power, get it all over the inside of the tire and rim. It will help everything settle into place without sticking. It will help prevent pinch flats, though this is more of an issue with large volume low pressure mtn bike tires.


Also, what pressure are you working with? Pump them way up high to seat, 150 psi or more if you're having trouble. Then deflate totally and bring up to riding pressure. This will also help insure the tube is oriented correctly and not twisted etc.

DScience 08-27-14 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 17077088)
That's where you're wrong. Kissing peoples' asses and telling them what they want to hear only breeds failure.

Instead of relying on bull**** disguised as "positivity", I choose to be a realist and am doing just fine.


Kissing peoples asses and being a good human being are totally different things. Assuming that I "want to hear something" specific from you is again your ego. I am here trying to learn, so if you have something that can provide me with knowledge or information, I would appreciate it. What you are doing is flat out insulting me. I hope you succeed with your business, truly. I also hope you can find some peace in life and not be such a dick.

DScience 08-27-14 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Flatulentfox (Post 17077091)
Quick dirty, I got about 44mm at the crank and 42mm at the wheel (all city new sheriff hubs and eai 17t cog).

With the tire seating, any time you change a tube or tire, fill that b1tch up with talc power, get it all over the inside of the tire and rim. It will help everything settle into place without sticking. It will help prevent pinch flats, though this is more of an issue with large volume low pressure mtn bike tires.

Also, what pressure are you working with? Pump them way up high to seat, 150 psi or more if you're having trouble. Then deflate totally and bring up to riding pressure. This will also help insure the tube is oriented correctly and not twisted etc.

Thank you so much for looking, that seems comparable to what I am seeing.

I went out and purchased some velox tape and talc powder, however I didn't use the talc powder because I didn't trust the source that recommended it. I think pumping up the tires high is what I missed. With the velox they now seem to be seated properly.

Scrodzilla 08-27-14 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by DScience (Post 17077149)
Kissing peoples asses and being a good human being are totally different things. Assuming that I "want to hear something" specific from you is again your ego. I am here trying to learn, so if you have something that can provide me with knowledge or information, I would appreciate it. What you are doing is flat out insulting me. I hope you succeed with your business, truly. I also hope you can find some peace in life and not be such a dick.

Thanks, Buddha.

For the record, not every aspect of my posting on this forum has to do with "customer service" so you can leave that out. I'm not working right now. It has nothing to do with ego. It has to do with the fact that you actually asked if you should remove your tires that you already managed to install to put talcum powder on them. Thinking for yourself really isn't that hard, I swear.

Also for the record, I'm not the only one who mentioned this thread being dumb.

DScience 08-28-14 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 17077173)
Thanks, Buddha.

For the record, not every aspect of my posting on this forum has to do with "customer service" so you can leave that out. I'm not working right now. It has nothing to do with ego. It has to do with the fact that you actually asked if you should remove your tires that you already managed to install to put talcum powder on them. Thinking for yourself really isn't that hard, I swear.

Also for the record, I'm not the only one who mentioned this thread being dumb.

The problem was that the bead wouldn't come out of the center of the rim, and properly seat itself. Thus when you kept saying, "use talc powder", I didn't know what you were suggesting. To me there were two possiblities: 1) start over: remove tire, apply rim tape and powder and try again. 2) Try and put powder in the rim so that the bead will come out of the center and seat properly. Now based off your vague suggestion, how in the world was I supposed to "think" about which possible way was right? I've never done this before.

Keep telling yourself anything you want that will make you feel better about belittling someone else. From my experience in life, people who treat others rudely and promote negativity have their own deep rooted issues; whether or not they are consciously aware of it is another thing.

Also for the record, I realize there are other people here like yourself who enjoy flexing their internet muscles and come into threads simply to antagonize others and act all high and mighty. But honestly, if a thread is stupid to you, why even waste a second of your time to post about it? Ask yourself that. And for the record I've seen posts dating back to 2010, of you acting this way to many other people. It's kinda a bummer, especially because it makes me want to avoid this forum like the plague. I hope the moderators get the hint someday.

CLOSE THIS THREAD PLEASE, I WON'T BE COMING HERE FOR HELP ANYMORE.

:thumb:

Cute Boy Horse 08-28-14 09:35 AM

Nobody is closing the thread. Now you're going it's time for
http://i.imgur.com/LSNB2V4.gif

Scrodzilla 08-28-14 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by DScience (Post 17078040)
Now based off your vague suggestion, how in the world was I supposed to "think" about which possible way was right? I've never done this before.

Can you imagine how completely lame the world would have ended up if everyone took this approach to life throughout history? I can imagine scientists and inventors saying "Well you know...we've never done this before so I'll just sit down, have a spot of tea and not think about it. Who's up for a familiar game of checkers?"

europa 08-29-14 02:49 AM

Just the thankful he's not trying to fix his bike in your neighbourhood Scrod, you might find yourself having to unfix it so you can fix it ... oops, I'm being negative and unhelpful.

DScience, getting ****ty simply because you don't like the advice given or how it was given isn't going to get you anywhere. Sure, you can try other forums and it's possible you'll get more help. You are very unlikely to find anyone as willing to share his considerable knowledge as Scrod (as even a cursory browse of this forum should show) and, to a lesser extent, some of the other people you've tried to insult. Mate, if you act like a dill, you'll get treated like one. You can either stop acting like a dill or you can storm off in a huff. Of the two, the former works best on ALL forums, not just this one.

heymatthew 08-29-14 07:48 AM

Yep... Time to lock this one up.

hockeyteeth 08-29-14 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by DScience (Post 17078040)
I didn't know what you were suggesting. To me there were two possiblities: 1) start over: remove tire, apply rim tape and powder and try again. 2) Try and put powder in the rim so that the bead will come out of the center and seat properly. Now based off your vague suggestion, how in the world was I supposed to "think" about which possible way was right? I've never done this before.

So try both methods before asking someone to hold your hand and walk you through something as seemingly intuitive as seating a tire. It's not that complicated. For someone with the username DScience, you sure don't seem to grasp the scientific method of trial and error.

heymatthew 08-29-14 08:08 AM

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/up...dead-horse.gif

ginshun 08-29-14 08:18 AM

While DScience is being a little sensitive, he is pretty much right. Speaking as a relative newbie here myself, this site, or at least the singlespeed forum is not at all friendly when it comes to answering new peoples questions.
The attitude here is very likely to turn people off and have them not even ask a question or have them find a different forum for fear that if they do ask anything here, they are just as likely to be insulted as to have their question answered. Maybe its by design, in that this attitude forces people to think for themselves and search out knowledge on their own, but nobody should have the illusion that this is a friendly place that welcomes newcomers with open arms.
Some sites are more friendly than others, that is the nature of the interwebz. I am personally kind of a sarcastic, smartass myself, so it doesn't really bother me, but I can see how it is off putting to a lot of people.

DScience 08-29-14 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by hockeyteeth (Post 17081104)
So try both methods before asking someone to hold your hand and walk you through something as seemingly intuitive as seating a tire. It's not that complicated. For someone with the username DScience, you sure don't seem to grasp the scientific method of trial and error.

LOL ...the scientific method of trial and error, good one! :roflmao2:

I hope coming here and jocking Scrodzilla's scrotum made you feel better bro.

heymatthew 08-29-14 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by ginshun (Post 17081150)
The attitude here is sometimes like:

http://blogs.pjstar.com/thesnap/file...16-900x657.jpg

LOL!

bowzette 08-29-14 09:33 AM

:deadhorse:


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