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Old 04-11-05 | 06:17 PM
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Could you look at the attached picture and tell me if i have the washer in the right place. I'm not sure if the washer is on the correct side of the track end.
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Old 04-11-05 | 06:23 PM
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I would put it on the other side.
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Old 04-11-05 | 06:27 PM
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Agreed with HereNT, you want the "Teeth" on the track nut to "bite" into the track end.
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Old 04-11-05 | 06:34 PM
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Why do you need the washer in the first place? You are running the correct size hub for your frame.
I'm confused.
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Old 04-11-05 | 06:40 PM
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I'm not sure why, they came with the bike....should I just take em off?
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Old 04-11-05 | 06:41 PM
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Agreed with HereNT, you want the "Teeth" on the track nut to "bite" into the track end.
i might be wrong but wouldn't the teeth be digging into the ends either way you put it?
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Old 04-11-05 | 06:42 PM
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If your chainline is spot on then the spacer goes in the spare parts bin. If you are off by two mm or so to the right in the rear then move it to the other side of the dropout.
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Old 04-11-05 | 06:43 PM
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I'm not sure why, they came with the bike....should I just take em off?
If that's a windsor then you have it set up how the bike comes (i.e. "correct", for lack of a better word). One of my riding buddies has one and when I trued his wheels for him I found myself totally baffled by the thing and just threw it away. His wheel hasn't gone anywhere, even weighing in at 200 and riding brakeless.
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Old 04-11-05 | 06:47 PM
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yes, it's a windsor. did have any problems with his lockring staying tight? Mine won't stay tight and now the hub is stripped. I've also learned a bit about truing wheels since I got the bike.
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Old 04-11-05 | 06:49 PM
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i might be wrong but wouldn't the teeth be digging into the ends either way you put it?
I'd think that if it were [hub] [track end] [washer] [track nut] then the teeth on the track nut wouldn't make contact with the track end, just the washer. You'd want the teeth on the nut to make contact with the end so the axle doesn't slip around. Of course, as others have said, it might not need to be there at all.
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Old 04-11-05 | 06:51 PM
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yes, it's a windsor. did have any problems with his lockring staying tight? Mine won't stay tight and now the hub is stripped. I've also learned a bit about truing wheels since I got the bike.
i own a windsor as well and have had no problems with the lockring or any other stock parts (surprisingly!!). i will be replacing the bottom bracket and headset as soon as i get a couple extra bucks though...and then once i get even more extra dollars a new wheelset will be added.
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Old 04-11-05 | 06:55 PM
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Wait a second. I get it now. Keep the washer, it is kind of a ghetto track nut set up. Regular nuts, like the one on your bike, are one solid piece. On track nuts there is a free floating washer built into it. Basically, the washer is there to act like the non turning part of the track nut, which, as stated before, will keep your dropouts from getting torn up.
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Old 04-11-05 | 07:07 PM
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Actually, it has true track nuts...with the built in floating washer
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Old 04-11-05 | 08:05 PM
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yes, it's a windsor. did have any problems with his lockring staying tight? Mine won't stay tight and now the hub is stripped. I've also learned a bit about truing wheels since I got the bike.
*edit* misread your post.

the fixed side of his hub stripped after about a week (which ended comically with him crashing into a brick wall), so I red loctited a cog on the other side and suggested some new wheels. When he landed both the lockring and cog were dangling. I would guess that the lockring probably slipped first.
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Old 04-11-05 | 08:30 PM
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that's exaclty what happened to me, but it was a horse carriage that i almost ran into. both my cog and lockring were dangling. Do you think it is a problem with the hub, that the lockring won't stay tight? I either have to get a new wheel or weld the lockring on to my stripped hub.
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Old 04-12-05 | 01:40 PM
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that's exaclty what happened to me, but it was a horse carriage that i almost ran into. both my cog and lockring were dangling. Do you think it is a problem with the hub, that the lockring won't stay tight? I either have to get a new wheel or weld the lockring on to my stripped hub.
I don't know, but there was absolutely *nothing* left of the threads on the fixed side--you could slide the cog all the way on and spin it in either direction, same deal with the lockring. He used the freewheel side with red loctite and it's been holding up. Quick fix until you can get another hub/wheel/bike.
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