Di2 Conversion
#1
Di2 Conversion
I'm pretty fed up with our 3x10 Ultegra drivetrain on our Cannondale Road Tandem 2 (2012).
At the very least, I'd like to go 2x11, and possibly 1x11, in Di2. Some of the roads in our area are 15%+ for a few hundred meters and we bottom out our gearing.
Can I mix an Ultegra Di2 shift lever with an XT Di2 rear derailleur and run an 11-42 cassette? I've read that it's possible with DuraAce Di2 + XTR Di2, but obviously would like to save a few bills.
At the very least, I'd like to go 2x11, and possibly 1x11, in Di2. Some of the roads in our area are 15%+ for a few hundred meters and we bottom out our gearing.
Can I mix an Ultegra Di2 shift lever with an XT Di2 rear derailleur and run an 11-42 cassette? I've read that it's possible with DuraAce Di2 + XTR Di2, but obviously would like to save a few bills.
#2
Clipless in Coeur d'Alene
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From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
Bikes: Tandems: Calfee Dragonfly S&S, Ventana ECDM mtb; Singles: Specialized Tarmac SL4 S-Works, Specialized Stumpjumper Pro, etal.
Yes, the shift lever model does not matter at all, as long as it is of the E-tube variety. With any of these shifters you can drive 1x, 2x or 3x derailleur setups for either road or mtb.
#3
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From: Vancouver, BC
Bikes: 2022 Calfee Tetra, 2023 Giant TCR
I'm pretty fed up with our 3x10 Ultegra drivetrain on our Cannondale Road Tandem 2 (2012).
At the very least, I'd like to go 2x11, and possibly 1x11, in Di2. Some of the roads in our area are 15%+ for a few hundred meters and we bottom out our gearing.
Can I mix an Ultegra Di2 shift lever with an XT Di2 rear derailleur and run an 11-42 cassette? I've read that it's possible with DuraAce Di2 + XTR Di2, but obviously would like to save a few bills.
At the very least, I'd like to go 2x11, and possibly 1x11, in Di2. Some of the roads in our area are 15%+ for a few hundred meters and we bottom out our gearing.
Can I mix an Ultegra Di2 shift lever with an XT Di2 rear derailleur and run an 11-42 cassette? I've read that it's possible with DuraAce Di2 + XTR Di2, but obviously would like to save a few bills.
Before you mix road shifters with XT Di2 rear and front derailleurs, check that Synchro Shift will still work. If my memory is correct, the E-Tube software doesn't allow a mix of road and mtn Di2 components to setup Synchro Shift. Once you select "Road" setup, it will only offer a list of compatible road Di2 components.
You should also consider the new Ultegra RD-R8050-GS rear derailleur. It can now handle a 11-34T rear cassette. If this is still not low enough, you can always get a Wolf Roadlink for a 42T casssette.
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From: Anchorage, Ak
Bikes: 2015 Calfee Tetra tandem,2016 Calfee Tetra Adventure Tandem, Ventana ECDM 26 mtn tandem, Ventana ECDM 29r full suspension Mtn tandem ,Ventana Fat tire tandem, Calfee Dragon Fly, Santa Cruz Carbon 5010, 907 Whiteout fat tire
First of all, I'm pretty sure that you'll love the improved shifting from 2x11 Di2.
Before you mix road shifters with XT Di2 rear and front derailleurs, check that Synchro Shift will still work. If my memory is correct, the E-Tube software doesn't allow a mix of road and mtn Di2 components to setup Synchro Shift. Once you select "Road" setup, it will only offer a list of compatible road Di2 components.
You should also consider the new Ultegra RD-R8050-GS rear derailleur. It can now handle a 11-34T rear cassette. If this is still not low enough, you can always get a Wolf Roadlink for a 42T casssette.
Before you mix road shifters with XT Di2 rear and front derailleurs, check that Synchro Shift will still work. If my memory is correct, the E-Tube software doesn't allow a mix of road and mtn Di2 components to setup Synchro Shift. Once you select "Road" setup, it will only offer a list of compatible road Di2 components.
You should also consider the new Ultegra RD-R8050-GS rear derailleur. It can now handle a 11-34T rear cassette. If this is still not low enough, you can always get a Wolf Roadlink for a 42T casssette.
Last edited by akexpress; 09-27-17 at 11:47 AM.
#5
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From: Denver NC
Bikes: Santana Team Ti 700 S&S, Trek Madone 6, Omega Ti,Klein Palamino, Trek 510
I would suggest looking at Sram eTap. Rick at Houseoftandems.com has put together an upgrade kit with a wide range 2X11 with the eTap. I saw a few recently upgraded tandems this past weekend at STR and the owners were very happy with it.
#6
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From: Bethlehem, PA
Bikes: Land Shark Pro Carbon Tandem, Ventana ECdM 27.5+, Salsa Powderkeg
I second eTap with WiFli. Works great and no wires, the best retrofit IMO..super clean.
We have over 2600mi on ours and not one issue with NO adjustments!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nBtLS7uid6Uhdit03
https://photos.app.goo.gl/V3VyjnrMWVxphyzA3
We have over 2600mi on ours and not one issue with NO adjustments!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nBtLS7uid6Uhdit03
https://photos.app.goo.gl/V3VyjnrMWVxphyzA3
#7
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Joined: Nov 2007
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From: Anchorage, Ak
Bikes: 2015 Calfee Tetra tandem,2016 Calfee Tetra Adventure Tandem, Ventana ECDM 26 mtn tandem, Ventana ECDM 29r full suspension Mtn tandem ,Ventana Fat tire tandem, Calfee Dragon Fly, Santa Cruz Carbon 5010, 907 Whiteout fat tire
I second eTap with WiFli. Works great and no wires, the best retrofit IMO..super clean.
We have over 2600mi on ours and not one issue with NO adjustments!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nBtLS7uid6Uhdit03
https://photos.app.goo.gl/V3VyjnrMWVxphyzA3
We have over 2600mi on ours and not one issue with NO adjustments!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nBtLS7uid6Uhdit03
https://photos.app.goo.gl/V3VyjnrMWVxphyzA3
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From: Lafayette, Colorado
Bikes: 1998 Co-Motion Co-Pilot, 2015 Calfee Tetra
I notice that your Landshark is setup similar to our Calfee: The FSA triple crank with the big ring (52t in our case) fixed to the middle position and the small ring (34t in our case) attached to the small position. I've been trying to figure out how to go with a 3x system with our Ultegra Di2 but have been warned against. If we switch to an XT or XTR front derailleur, we are pretty severely limited in the size of the big ring (50t?).
I'd like to preserve our range but go to smaller steps between the front rings. Rob at Calfee has cautioned me against this.
I'd like to preserve our range but go to smaller steps between the front rings. Rob at Calfee has cautioned me against this.
#9
I second eTap with WiFli. Works great and no wires, the best retrofit IMO..super clean.
We have over 2600mi on ours and not one issue with NO adjustments!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nBtLS7uid6Uhdit03
https://photos.app.goo.gl/V3VyjnrMWVxphyzA3
We have over 2600mi on ours and not one issue with NO adjustments!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nBtLS7uid6Uhdit03
https://photos.app.goo.gl/V3VyjnrMWVxphyzA3
Last edited by colombo357; 09-27-17 at 12:33 PM.
#11
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From: Mountain Brook. AL
There was this report of using a Wifli Etap with 50/34 and 11-36 cassette:
Technical FAQ: Frame sizing, wide gearing for road bikes | VeloNews.com Scroll down...
No evidence of Wolf type extension needed. With etap brifters and RD/FD with batteries and charger now
available for ~$1200, adding a cassette for $60-100 more and a R side compact (I suspect 52-36 would
work as well) would mean a perhaps $1500 conversion.
Technical FAQ: Frame sizing, wide gearing for road bikes | VeloNews.com Scroll down...
No evidence of Wolf type extension needed. With etap brifters and RD/FD with batteries and charger now
available for ~$1200, adding a cassette for $60-100 more and a R side compact (I suspect 52-36 would
work as well) would mean a perhaps $1500 conversion.
#12
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Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 24
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From: Bethlehem, PA
Bikes: Land Shark Pro Carbon Tandem, Ventana ECdM 27.5+, Salsa Powderkeg
#13
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Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 24
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From: Bethlehem, PA
Bikes: Land Shark Pro Carbon Tandem, Ventana ECdM 27.5+, Salsa Powderkeg
#14
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Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 620
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From: Anchorage, Ak
Bikes: 2015 Calfee Tetra tandem,2016 Calfee Tetra Adventure Tandem, Ventana ECDM 26 mtn tandem, Ventana ECDM 29r full suspension Mtn tandem ,Ventana Fat tire tandem, Calfee Dragon Fly, Santa Cruz Carbon 5010, 907 Whiteout fat tire
So a couple DI2 possibilities that may not be available for Etap. Hydraulic brakes and even greater gear range with some simple mods.
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