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Old 08-16-18, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 124Spider View Post
Ah, another one who thinks I'm crazy, who somehow knows that what did happen couldn't happen. That's fine.

Gravity is a weak force, but it always wins. The bike hung there for a long time without being moved. The wheel became oval. Verhy oval. Yes, it actually happened. No, the wheel didn't get "bent in the process of hanging it," it got bent while hanging there in one position for a long time.

Gee, ever heard of the tides? Gravity is quite something!

Have I not been clear enough that I don't care what counter-arguments people throw at me as to why I needn't worry about it happening again (or, even sillier, why it didn't actually happen in the first place)?

Ok, I'll say it again--I'm not going to hang a bike by its wheel(s) ever again. EVER AGAIN. I will, however, suspend it from the ceiling upright; just asking about what's the best tool for that.

There. What's the over/under on how many posts until someone yet again argues?



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I am sort of interested to hear all of the technical arguments as to why it didn't/couldn't happen.

OP - I tend to believe you, b/c why would you make it up. But I also know there are some really smart engineer types that know a lot of stuff.
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Old 08-16-18, 04:39 PM
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I am sort of interested to hear all of the technical arguments as to why it didn't/couldn't happen.

OP - I tend to believe you, b/c why would you make it up. But I also know there are some really smart engineer types that know a lot of stuff.
I actually understand the technical arguments. And i don't argue with them. I'm just saying that it really did happen to me, and, given that I have alternatives, why would I do it again? I won't.

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I had one of those hoists. I used to use it with our two-person kayak. Now I got another for the tandem. I don't have it hooked up in the barn now, but I will use it eventually. I have confidence it will work well for me.
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Originally Posted by 124Spider View Post
Ah, another one who thinks I'm crazy, who somehow knows that what did happen couldn't happen. That's fine.

Gravity is a weak force, but it always wins. The bike hung there for a long time without being moved. The wheel became oval. Verhy oval. Yes, it actually happened. No, the wheel didn't get "bent in the process of hanging it," it got bent while hanging there in one position for a long time.

Gee, ever heard of the tides? Gravity is quite something!

Have I not been clear enough that I don't care what counter-arguments people throw at me as to why I needn't worry about it happening again (or, even sillier, why it didn't actually happen in the first place)?

Ok, I'll say it again--I'm not going to hang a bike by its wheel(s) ever again. EVER AGAIN. I will, however, suspend it from the ceiling upright; just asking about what's the best tool for that.

There. What's the over/under on how many posts until someone yet again argues?



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The wheel had a serious problem that hanging revealed, thereby preventing a potentially catastrophic failure on the road. Hanging the bike may have saved your and your stoker's lives by exposing a major problem with your wheel. So lucky it failed on the bike hook rather than on a fast descent. Wow, talk about dodging a bullet!

However, it would be a good idea to do everything in your power to prevent that from happening in the future. Much better to reveal a wheel problem by screaming down a hill at 40+ mph!
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Old 08-17-18, 03:49 PM
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Based on what I've learned from the road-runner physicists around here I expect OP's wheel had straight gauge spokes and the cassette didn't have any "bite". JK
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Harken Hoister

We have a Harken Hoister (hoister.com) for our tandem, currently for sale with the bike. I listed the model number in a post to the "anybody looking for one of these" thread. It has been great, lifting the bike equally at both ends and holding it securely.

It connects to the bike with adjustable straps, which we run through the wheels, but you certainly could connect to the saddles or frame. I've done the latter to use the hoist as a work stand.

Hope that helps.

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Originally Posted by CaptCranky View Post
We have a Harken Hoister (hoister.com) for our tandem, currently for sale with the bike. I listed the model number in a post to the "anybody looking for one of these" thread. It has been great, lifting the bike equally at both ends and holding it securely.

It connects to the bike with adjustable straps, which we run through the wheels, but you certainly could connect to the saddles or frame. I've done the latter to use the hoist as a work stand.

Hope that helps.

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Thanks; that's very helpful!
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I have two cheap bike hoists from Harbor Freight Tools, and have hung my tandem from one of them for probably 8-10 years at this point with no issues (the second holds my single touring bike). I added short pieces of rope to the two "claws" that attach to the bike, and loop it around the frame by the headset and rear triangle as lifting points. As a back-up security measure, after hoisting the tandem up, I also run a separate piece of high-quality rope over the 2x4 that secures the hoist to the garage ceiling and back to the tandem, tying it off with a secure knot. I'll try to take a photo if I have time. When looking at the Harbor Freight hoist vs. ones from Performance Bike, etc., they look identical and my guess is come from the same factory in China or wherever. $10 right now on HF's website. Search for "Bicycle Lift." The key is to make sure it is very well secured to the ceiling. I first mounted a 2x4 across the roof joists and then secured the Bike Lift to the 2x4, drilling some extra mounting holes in the Bike Lift base to provide extra mounting points.
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Originally Posted by Philly Tandem View Post
I have two cheap bike hoists from Harbor Freight Tools, and have hung my tandem from one of them for probably 8-10 years at this point with no issues (the second holds my single touring bike). I added short pieces of rope to the two "claws" that attach to the bike, and loop it around the frame by the headset and rear triangle as lifting points. As a back-up security measure, after hoisting the tandem up, I also run a separate piece of high-quality rope over the 2x4 that secures the hoist to the garage ceiling and back to the tandem, tying it off with a secure knot. I'll try to take a photo if I have time. When looking at the Harbor Freight hoist vs. ones from Performance Bike, etc., they look identical and my guess is come from the same factory in China or wherever. $10 right now on HF's website. Search for "Bicycle Lift." The key is to make sure it is very well secured to the ceiling. I first mounted a 2x4 across the roof joists and then secured the Bike Lift to the 2x4, drilling some extra mounting holes in the Bike Lift base to provide extra mounting points.
Very helpful; thanks!
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We also have a Santana triple, which at 10+ feet long is a bit long (and heavy) to hang. When not riding it regularly it's stored upright, leaning against one wall of the garage. I remove the pedals on the outside and turn the handlebars sideways to reduce the width. We have a pretty small garage, but doing this allows me to park my car in there.
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