Reason Against Rear Disc
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Reason Against Rear Disc
So we were at mile 63 in a century. We were starting up after a rest stop. There was a guy beside us starting up. All of a sudden he falls over knocks our bike over (we were still standing over it) and lands on our back wheel.
He managed to bend the disc brake rotor. I was able to true up the wheel. The rear derailleur was scratched up and looks a little bent but appears to shift fine. Because of the rotor we had to sag back to our car. Maybe we should carry an extra rotor?
He managed to bend the disc brake rotor. I was able to true up the wheel. The rear derailleur was scratched up and looks a little bent but appears to shift fine. Because of the rotor we had to sag back to our car. Maybe we should carry an extra rotor?
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Sorry to hear that.
How easy is it to bend a rotor? You're situation seems to be a relatively unlikely occurrence.
However, I'm wondering how likely such damage would be over time travelling with the bike, in and out of cars, in and out of cases?
How easy is it to bend a rotor? You're situation seems to be a relatively unlikely occurrence.
However, I'm wondering how likely such damage would be over time travelling with the bike, in and out of cars, in and out of cases?
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You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
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It's quite easy to bend a rotor, particulary if you travel with your tandem and leave the rotor attached to the wheel...
Other thoughts...
1. We gave up on 'fund raiser rides' long ago because of the inherent hazard of riding with folks of questionable skills and, well, simply the law of averages associated with being around that many cyclists, any one of which could have a bad day that ruins my day.
2. Organized centuries often times reach the same level of controlled chaos.... we're careful to pick and choose which rides to attend, when to leave the start area and/or which end of the pack to be in.
3. Unless you're riding in challenging terrain where you need both brakes, the easy way home with a bum rotor or disc brake is to take the rotor off and take it easy.
Other thoughts...
1. We gave up on 'fund raiser rides' long ago because of the inherent hazard of riding with folks of questionable skills and, well, simply the law of averages associated with being around that many cyclists, any one of which could have a bad day that ruins my day.
2. Organized centuries often times reach the same level of controlled chaos.... we're careful to pick and choose which rides to attend, when to leave the start area and/or which end of the pack to be in.
3. Unless you're riding in challenging terrain where you need both brakes, the easy way home with a bum rotor or disc brake is to take the rotor off and take it easy.
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Wow! That seems like a case of incredibly bad luck. I've been more concerned about our rear disk the few times we've had the wheel off and packed in a wheel bag while traveling than I ever have been while it's on the bike.
I personally wouldn't be concerned about another mishap like that happening again....
I personally wouldn't be concerned about another mishap like that happening again....
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rmac...sorry about the rotor....with that kind of luck don't waste your money on any Lotery tickets this week.
We really enjoy traveling to new areas for Organized Rides and do a lot of them. For sure they can be a scary crap shoots at times. We have had a few close ones and are really on high alert particularly early on at the big ones.
Bill J..
We really enjoy traveling to new areas for Organized Rides and do a lot of them. For sure they can be a scary crap shoots at times. We have had a few close ones and are really on high alert particularly early on at the big ones.
Bill J..
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Back to the rotor, they do warrant some extra attention to be sure. Minor warps aren't all that hard to un-do but yeah, if someone falls on one or if they truly get bent you're SOL.
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It's quite easy to bend a rotor, particulary if you travel with your tandem and leave the rotor attached to the wheel...
Other thoughts...
3. Unless you're riding in challenging terrain where you need both brakes, the easy way home with a bum rotor or disc brake is to take the rotor off and take it easy.
Other thoughts...
3. Unless you're riding in challenging terrain where you need both brakes, the easy way home with a bum rotor or disc brake is to take the rotor off and take it easy.
We always remove both rotors when the bike is packed on the advice of a thread here.
The derailleur is a Record long cage 10sp which are no longer sold. If the cage is not bent can I buy a new one and change the pully cage?
I'll respond to about large rides and tandems in the new thread. For some reason though, even though there were probably 800 people on this ride not many did the full 100. Seems in the past there were a lot more. This problem, I think, is more riding with inexperienced riders.
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Good luck for finding a cheap one [Campy Record]. The newer versions were carbon fiber, that one may have broke [but maybe it would have survived]. Keep an eye out and maybe you can find one on eBay but it will not be cheap.
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I've had a few older versions fully disassembled before and I'm fairly certain you can still cannibalize the more recent models of Campy rear derailleurs but the donor and patient need be of the exact same design / generation.
Best bet is to look for a used short or med length used RD of the same vintage; they're out there.
Best bet is to look for a used short or med length used RD of the same vintage; they're out there.
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The Record 10sp medium cage, which is still being sold, can handle a chain wrap of 36. The long cage could handle 39. Right now we're at 40. If I went back to a 12-27 cassette from a 12-30, we could use the medium cage derailleur.
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Just something to think about.
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FWIW, I used a medium cage Campy Racing Triple RD on our Erickson from '98 - '02 with a 12x30t cassette because there was no such thing as a long-cage Campy RD at that time. The long-cage is actually of marginal on a tandem value because you can't really use the lower 1/2 of the cassette when you're in the granny ring which is where it would pick up that extra slack.
Just something to think about.
Just something to think about.
Now, who is going to pay for it? I'm thinking is it is just one of those costs of biking.
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I put on a new Avid Clean Sweep disc and noticed that they changed the design. It now has a more open design and is 20% lighter. I guess this will decrease the heat capacity but maybe increase the heat dissipation to the air.





