simple alcohol burner vs multifuel burner?
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Are you sure?
I thought I saw rebuild kits for them recently on eBay.
Optimus Svea Parts KIT 8016526 | eBay
NEW Svea 123 Spindle OR Needle Valve Primus 71 3 Available | eBay
I thought I saw rebuild kits for them recently on eBay.
Optimus Svea Parts KIT 8016526 | eBay
NEW Svea 123 Spindle OR Needle Valve Primus 71 3 Available | eBay
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Are you sure?
I thought I saw rebuild kits for them recently on eBay.
Optimus Svea Parts KIT 8016526 | eBay
NEW Svea 123 Spindle OR Needle Valve Primus 71 3 Available | eBay
I thought I saw rebuild kits for them recently on eBay.
Optimus Svea Parts KIT 8016526 | eBay
NEW Svea 123 Spindle OR Needle Valve Primus 71 3 Available | eBay
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for my bike tours, i have opted for the Coleman Peak 442 multi-fuel stove. i agree that there is weight sacrifice, but for me, the near universal availability of unleaded gas made this my preferred choice. in addition to the reservoir in the stove itself, i carried another MSR bottle with fuel, so i was always able to use the stove, no matter how remote i was.
i will submit, however, for upcoming backpacking trips i will explore a more lightweight option. but, for the bike touring: the stove, extra fuel bottle, cookware, coffee percolator, and other kitchen items all fit nicely in a Ortlieb front pannier.
i will submit, however, for upcoming backpacking trips i will explore a more lightweight option. but, for the bike touring: the stove, extra fuel bottle, cookware, coffee percolator, and other kitchen items all fit nicely in a Ortlieb front pannier.
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For those who cook, this is the best cookware I've seen:
Texsport - The Scouter Black Ice? Hard Anodized Cook Set
Texsport - The Scouter Black Ice? Hard Anodized Cook Set
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Fuel caps were the problem. the parts you list never wear out IME, which is probably why they are available. But the fuel cap relief valve and gaskets go bad in time and allow the stove to shoot huge gouts of flame, quite impressive and terrifying. I used a Svea from 1964 to ~2008. Polished it up for a knick-knack. Kind of sad. But the other thing about a Svea is that it has a wick in the fuel tank, and thus you can never fly with one. Can't clean it like an Optimus Nova or MSR.
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I used a Svea for 35 years for backpacking and biking before buying a Trangia last year. I used the Trangia with great success on a 1,200 ride. I found that it boiled water quickly enough, and I was able to control the flame with the simmer ring well enough to make nice golden brown pancakes. I think that I'll still break out the Svea on occasion, but for ease of use and quiet, the Trangia is pretty darn good.
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I used a Svea for 35 years for backpacking and biking before buying a Trangia last year. I used the Trangia with great success on a 1,200 ride. I found that it boiled water quickly enough, and I was able to control the flame with the simmer ring well enough to make nice golden brown pancakes. I think that I'll still break out the Svea on occasion, but for ease of use and quiet, the Trangia is pretty darn good.
I dislike the roarer burner of my Omnilite Ti for its noise.
I miss the much quieter Optimus 111T I had that was confiscated at Sydney Australia Airport.
I looked at the new Optimus Hiker + but without the silent burner it didn't turn me on.
Its my Trangia that seems to be my go - to stove these days, although the alcohol fuel seems a rubbish hereabouts as it seems to suffer with a lot of soot.
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Ok but are these not suitable?
Svea 123 123R 8R 111 Filler CAP Seal Viton Seals 2 Pack Extra Durable | eBay
Svea 123 123R ETC Filler CAP Seal Safety Valve PIP Viton 'Made TO Last' | eBay
Primus Optimus Camp Stove Premium Service KIT 51 54 Type KIT D 'Made TO Last' | eBay
Primus Optimus Camp Stove NRV PIP Pack OF 10 Viton Long Lasting High Quality | eBay
Svea 123 123R 8R 111 Filler CAP Seal Viton Seals 2 Pack Extra Durable | eBay
Svea 123 123R ETC Filler CAP Seal Safety Valve PIP Viton 'Made TO Last' | eBay
Primus Optimus Camp Stove Premium Service KIT 51 54 Type KIT D 'Made TO Last' | eBay
Primus Optimus Camp Stove NRV PIP Pack OF 10 Viton Long Lasting High Quality | eBay
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I read that fairly often and definitely don't relate. The sound is something I missed when I gave up on my SVEA. I always found it to be pleasant feedback, letting me know that the stove was doing what it was supposed to. The silence and near invisibility of the flame are both things that I consider minor flaws of my alcohol stoves.
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I agree, I can't relate.
When compared to touring all day every day with a partner who happens to be sporting a White Industries, Chris King, or Fulcrum freewheel/hubs which are so damn noisy every time they decide to coast or not pedal, a few minutes of hissing from a stove is like music to my ears.
When compared to touring all day every day with a partner who happens to be sporting a White Industries, Chris King, or Fulcrum freewheel/hubs which are so damn noisy every time they decide to coast or not pedal, a few minutes of hissing from a stove is like music to my ears.
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I prefer liquid fuel stoves, but I usually travel for 9 or more days. My favorite is the Omnifuel. Sometimes instead use the Optimus Nova.
If I was doing a short trip of 3 or 4 days, i would use a canister stove. If I was trying to be ultra light and only heat occasional water, I would use the Optimus Crux stove, it is tiny. A bit bigger is the Snow Peak stove with optional (at extra cost) wind screen. I have not tried a Jetboil or similar Primus, if you only want to heat water look at those stoves with heat exchangers.
I have not used my Sigg Tourist for a few decades but I did use my Svea for 3 days of backpacking in grand canyon last year. Since it was mostly a car camping trip I brought liquid fuel and that is why I brought the Svea instead of canister stove for short side trip in the canyon.
If you are looking for Svea or other Swedish stove parts, you might be able to order from the UK. I think some companies there will ship parts. Check this website for more info on fixing up old Swedish stoves.
Classic Camp Stoves
If I was doing a short trip of 3 or 4 days, i would use a canister stove. If I was trying to be ultra light and only heat occasional water, I would use the Optimus Crux stove, it is tiny. A bit bigger is the Snow Peak stove with optional (at extra cost) wind screen. I have not tried a Jetboil or similar Primus, if you only want to heat water look at those stoves with heat exchangers.
I have not used my Sigg Tourist for a few decades but I did use my Svea for 3 days of backpacking in grand canyon last year. Since it was mostly a car camping trip I brought liquid fuel and that is why I brought the Svea instead of canister stove for short side trip in the canyon.
If you are looking for Svea or other Swedish stove parts, you might be able to order from the UK. I think some companies there will ship parts. Check this website for more info on fixing up old Swedish stoves.
Classic Camp Stoves
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re noise, I used a whisperlite for a long time, and it isnt really that noisy, not compared to some propane type cartridge ones Ive used that would get noisy at the end sometimes. Got a Trangia simple kit last year just to try out and the quiet was kinda nice, but I figure unless a stove is a real noisy son of a gun, its not really an issue or just down to personal choice.
A near silent one could be nice in the morning if other campers are nearby and not awake I guess.
A near silent one could be nice in the morning if other campers are nearby and not awake I guess.
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Went for a ride this morning and took my Trangia / Esbit kit to make tea by the river... this carries the stove, windscreen / base, a selection of dry mixes (enough food for a day), and a lighter.
It's bag has room for utensils and a fuel bottle, and a few spare items like solid fuel blocks.
It's bag has room for utensils and a fuel bottle, and a few spare items like solid fuel blocks.
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