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What I was getting at, would those wheels be OK for your Baltic trip? Don't know how Great Divide is involved.
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Some research about road conditions is necessary. But for basic gravel roads with some chuck holes. Yes.
For bouncing off of fist size rocks on a fast steep downhill? Maybe not. It came with 2 inch tires, I'm not sure how much wider would fit. Or the effect of tires any wider.
For bouncing off of fist size rocks on a fast steep downhill? Maybe not. It came with 2 inch tires, I'm not sure how much wider would fit. Or the effect of tires any wider.
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Probably I wouldn't worry about it. Best to concentrate on getting your passport, visas, logistics in order. Summer is fast approaching and does not last long at those latitudes. Lots of pics, please!
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Some research about road conditions is necessary. But for basic gravel roads with some chuck holes. Yes.
For bouncing off of fist size rocks on a fast steep downhill? Maybe not. It came with 2 inch tires, I'm not sure how much wider would fit. Or the effect of tires any wider.
For bouncing off of fist size rocks on a fast steep downhill? Maybe not. It came with 2 inch tires, I'm not sure how much wider would fit. Or the effect of tires any wider.
Are you planning an off pavement route? In general Scandinavian roads are pretty good, you shouldn't need anything special for tires.
According to the review at bikepacker.com
The 920 comes set up with Bontrager Duster Elite 29er wheels, and clearance for up to about 29×2.25” (untested, so this might depend on the tire). Running the stock Bontrager XR1 tires, which measure 29×2.0” (or 700Cx51 if you prefer), there is even space for fenders.
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@Squeezebox It sounds like you & your bike have been cleared for takeoff. Keep us posted on how your trip plans progress.
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How you handling the Russian bits? Going to tackle getting a visa and dealing with entry/exit, or are you going to stick to the Schengen states?
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I think EU nationals can easily get visas for Kaliningrad, more difficult for others, but again its easy to avoid.
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Tough crowd.
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If it was me, I'd just take the ferry from Helsinki to Tallinn, and forget about the Russian part. Although St. Petersburg is pretty cool and worth visiting, Russian visas are expensive and require jumping through many hoops, at least for Canadians. Maybe its easier for Americans.
I think EU nationals can easily get visas for Kaliningrad, more difficult for others, but again its easy to avoid.
I think EU nationals can easily get visas for Kaliningrad, more difficult for others, but again its easy to avoid.
I'll check with the tourist dept for each country.
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Replying late to this, but for the record...
The coast is populated. If you ride around the Gulf of Finland, Haparanda-Kemi-Oulu-Raahe-Kokkola-Vaasa or so, you're never going to be very far from a grocery store or gas station. The area around Oulu (the major city of the region) is very flat and a somewhat famously boring ride for that reason. Oulu is known for urban cycling partly because of the flatness. They have an extensive network of bike lanes and possibly the highest bicycle mode share in Finland, despite the location at 65 degrees northern latitude.
Lapland north of Oulu is much more sparsely populated and there you have some long distances between grocery shops, but even there, it's not much of a difficulty on the main routes.
If you're going to ride from Oulu to Helsinki, I guess the lake district of central Finland might have more interesting scenery than the coast. It's a lot more hilly than the coastal areas.
If you do follow the coast, there's the Turku archipelago and Åland islands in the southwest. These are likely the best-known bicycle tourism destinations in Finland. The scenery is beautiful, but doing a loop around the islands (involves a number of ferries) is probably going to add at least two days or more to the trip.
FOR THE RECORD, THE NATIONAL BIRD IS THE SWAN! But yes, off the record, the mosquito. Sometimes I read/see video of foreign bicycle tourists and others getting eaten alive and they don't seem to mention repellents. I don't know if they simply didn't mention them or actually didn't have any, but, for the record, you should use a repellent. They're not perfect, but they definitely help.
Incidentally, attracting mosquitoes depends somewhat on your personal scent, too. I happen to be a mosquito magnet by nature, but I know some fellow Finns who seem to repel them naturally. I once went jogging by the waterfront in Oulu in early July without repellent (not recommended) with a colleague of mine, and if I stopped for a second, there'd be a could of mosquitoes around me and none around him. Which was deeply unfair.
Lapland north of Oulu is much more sparsely populated and there you have some long distances between grocery shops, but even there, it's not much of a difficulty on the main routes.
If you're going to ride from Oulu to Helsinki, I guess the lake district of central Finland might have more interesting scenery than the coast. It's a lot more hilly than the coastal areas.
If you do follow the coast, there's the Turku archipelago and Åland islands in the southwest. These are likely the best-known bicycle tourism destinations in Finland. The scenery is beautiful, but doing a loop around the islands (involves a number of ferries) is probably going to add at least two days or more to the trip.
FOR THE RECORD, THE NATIONAL BIRD IS THE SWAN! But yes, off the record, the mosquito. Sometimes I read/see video of foreign bicycle tourists and others getting eaten alive and they don't seem to mention repellents. I don't know if they simply didn't mention them or actually didn't have any, but, for the record, you should use a repellent. They're not perfect, but they definitely help.
Incidentally, attracting mosquitoes depends somewhat on your personal scent, too. I happen to be a mosquito magnet by nature, but I know some fellow Finns who seem to repel them naturally. I once went jogging by the waterfront in Oulu in early July without repellent (not recommended) with a colleague of mine, and if I stopped for a second, there'd be a could of mosquitoes around me and none around him. Which was deeply unfair.
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Replying late to this, but for the record...
The coast is populated. If you ride around the Gulf of Finland, Haparanda-Kemi-Oulu-Raahe-Kokkola-Vaasa or so, you're never going to be very far from a grocery store or gas station. The area around Oulu (the major city of the region) is very flat and a somewhat famously boring ride for that reason. Oulu is known for urban cycling partly because of the flatness. They have an extensive network of bike lanes and possibly the highest bicycle mode share in Finland, despite the location at 65 degrees northern latitude.
Lapland north of Oulu is much more sparsely populated and there you have some long distances between grocery shops, but even there, it's not much of a difficulty on the main routes.
If you're going to ride from Oulu to Helsinki, I guess the lake district of central Finland might have more interesting scenery than the coast. It's a lot more hilly than the coastal areas.
If you do follow the coast, there's the Turku archipelago and Åland islands in the southwest. These are likely the best-known bicycle tourism destinations in Finland. The scenery is beautiful, but doing a loop around the islands (involves a number of ferries) is probably going to add at least two days or more to the trip.
FOR THE RECORD, THE NATIONAL BIRD IS THE SWAN! But yes, off the record, the mosquito. Sometimes I read/see video of foreign bicycle tourists and others getting eaten alive and they don't seem to mention repellents. I don't know if they simply didn't mention them or actually didn't have any, but, for the record, you should use a repellent. They're not perfect, but they definitely help.
Incidentally, attracting mosquitoes depends somewhat on your personal scent, too. I happen to be a mosquito magnet by nature, but I know some fellow Finns who seem to repel them naturally. I once went jogging by the waterfront in Oulu in early July without repellent (not recommended) with a colleague of mine, and if I stopped for a second, there'd be a could of mosquitoes around me and none around him. Which was deeply unfair.
The coast is populated. If you ride around the Gulf of Finland, Haparanda-Kemi-Oulu-Raahe-Kokkola-Vaasa or so, you're never going to be very far from a grocery store or gas station. The area around Oulu (the major city of the region) is very flat and a somewhat famously boring ride for that reason. Oulu is known for urban cycling partly because of the flatness. They have an extensive network of bike lanes and possibly the highest bicycle mode share in Finland, despite the location at 65 degrees northern latitude.
Lapland north of Oulu is much more sparsely populated and there you have some long distances between grocery shops, but even there, it's not much of a difficulty on the main routes.
If you're going to ride from Oulu to Helsinki, I guess the lake district of central Finland might have more interesting scenery than the coast. It's a lot more hilly than the coastal areas.
If you do follow the coast, there's the Turku archipelago and Åland islands in the southwest. These are likely the best-known bicycle tourism destinations in Finland. The scenery is beautiful, but doing a loop around the islands (involves a number of ferries) is probably going to add at least two days or more to the trip.
FOR THE RECORD, THE NATIONAL BIRD IS THE SWAN! But yes, off the record, the mosquito. Sometimes I read/see video of foreign bicycle tourists and others getting eaten alive and they don't seem to mention repellents. I don't know if they simply didn't mention them or actually didn't have any, but, for the record, you should use a repellent. They're not perfect, but they definitely help.
Incidentally, attracting mosquitoes depends somewhat on your personal scent, too. I happen to be a mosquito magnet by nature, but I know some fellow Finns who seem to repel them naturally. I once went jogging by the waterfront in Oulu in early July without repellent (not recommended) with a colleague of mine, and if I stopped for a second, there'd be a could of mosquitoes around me and none around him. Which was deeply unfair.
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There used to be swans on Finnish bank notes before the euro. I'm not sure about the regular euro notes and coins, but apparently the Bank of Finland made a special 2 euro coin with a swan for their 200-year celebration in 2011. The roughly equivalent 10-mark coin from 1995.
And here's the only nice noise made by swans, from Sibelius's 5th. I have no idea why it's called the swan call motif, the birds sound nasty in reality.
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Saying this as a Finn and a cyclist who has also lived in St. Petersburg: Skip Russia and SPB unless you're out to prove something. The road conditions are really bad and yes it's really dangerous and stressful to cycle in Russian traffic. If you want to do a quick visit to Russia while in Finland I recommend taking the Allegro train to SPB which is cheap (~60€ round trip) and fast (2-3½h depending on where you hop in).
Also, geminis recommendation about cycling in Turku archipelago via island hopping is spot on - it is really nice and unique experience!
Also, geminis recommendation about cycling in Turku archipelago via island hopping is spot on - it is really nice and unique experience!
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