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thepetester 04-28-17 10:10 AM

Excellent!
 

Originally Posted by king_boru (Post 19543685)
Hygiene products.
Basic medical supplies.
Basic tool kit.
Spare inner tube x2.
Tire repair kit x2.
Emergency ration pack x2.
Water bottles.
Water purification tablets.
Relevant maps.
Spare clothes.
Pocket knife.

If you are survival savvy you can find food on your venture. Bring a small fishing rod perhaps. Or fishing line and a hook for a make shift stick rod.

All that can fit in a small lightweight backpack.

thanks for the list I really appreciate it.

thepetester 04-28-17 10:12 AM

That's way cool
 

Originally Posted by 79pmooney (Post 19543853)
Dr Bronner's Castile Soap. Only soap you'll need. Works for bathing, hair (might want some conditioner), clothes, dishes, bike parts and very well on any flesh exposed to poison ivy or oak. I'm sure there are many other uses.

Ben

thank you very much

thepetester 04-28-17 10:21 AM

Im going as bare bones as possible
 
Considering food and definitely taking tools spare tubes and chain because I seem to have a bad luck thing where my chains always jam up, the last one hadn't been oiled for awhile so there is that.

But thanks to all of the great advice I think that I'll have a great time,thanks again.

Leebo 04-28-17 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Trevtassie (Post 19543541)
Beer Cooler. Only needs to be big enough for a 6 pack, that's plenty for an evening.

I like one of those soft packs that fold up when not in use.

BlarneyHammer 04-28-17 10:51 AM

A GPS unit isn't mandatory, but it's extremely useful. That said, it can be replaced by an app on a smartphone. There are several that can store maps and tracks offline. I use MyTrails (about $3), but there are others just as good.
In general, a smartphone is one of the most useful things you can bring. Phone, internet, camera, music, GPS, all in one small device. If you keep a blog, the PackJournal app allows you to type your journals, save them offline, and upload them later, and the website shows you where you wrote them and took your photos, even if you were offline at the time. Only needs one charger, and you can probably find a waterproof case, which isn't true for most other electronics.

I second Dr. Bronner's soap. Liquids are heavy. This gets you down to one, and it's concentrated, so you don't need to bring much. You can even use it as toothpaste (not pleasant, but it works). In bear country, using the unscented one as toothpaste is a great idea.

The importance of a waterproof/breathable jacket and waterproof panniers/bags can hardly be overstated. Even if you don't expect rain, waterproof/breathable jackets are among the best things for cold weather.

Other than that:
Tent
Sleeping bag
Sleeping pad
Spare tube, cables, patch kit, tire boot
Good multi-tool
Sunscreen
Toothbrush

jefnvk 04-28-17 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by thepetester (Post 19544741)
Considering food and definitely taking tools spare tubes and chain because I seem to have a bad luck thing where my chains always jam up, the last one hadn't been oiled for awhile so there is that.

But thanks to all of the great advice I think that I'll have a great time,thanks again.

I'd just replace it before you left. No reason a chain should go bad in four weeks.

As to a spare, if you have a chain tool, you can repair the old one to get you to a replacement.

79pmooney 04-28-17 11:20 AM

And another one, for the bike. Triflow. The small squeeze bottle. Put it in a ziplock bag. The stuff flows incredibly well! For chains, derailleurs, brakes and everything else that moves. Yes, there are better lubricants for each purpose, but Triflow does to all, quite well. (And while your drivetrain will go to filthy black - hence the hence the Bronners - Triflow is not a gunk magnet.) Just remember to shake well before application otherwise you are just using a very light oil that evaporates off. I re-shake mid-way for chain lubes.

Ben

KD5NRH 04-28-17 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by king_boru (Post 19543744)
I'm wrong because I prefer it that way?

Not entirely; that's only one of the reasons you're wrong.

king_boru 04-28-17 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by KD5NRH (Post 19544898)
Not entirely; that's only one of the reasons you're wrong.

Care to enlighten me?

KD5NRH 04-28-17 11:39 AM

And don't forget to take a nice suit; don't want to look like a weirdo in church.

alan s 04-28-17 12:25 PM

Shirt and shoes.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...94a84bfbe1.jpg

Trevtassie 04-28-17 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Leebo (Post 19544749)
I like one of those soft packs that fold up when not in use.

Yeppo, though I learnt the hard way to make sure it has a sealed liner, think standing in Narita airport saying "ooooo, something stinks" then realsing it's your cooler.

J.Higgins 04-28-17 07:11 PM

[MENTION=345426]thepetester[/MENTION] Dude, if your chains jam up like that something is wrong for sure. Either your derailleurs are misadjusted, or your chain needs cleaning and lubing. Probably both. Serious and comprehensive chain cleaning and care will enhance your enjoyment of the ride. I consider it a daily chore before I ride.

As far as the absolute necessary gear to take, I am still learning myself, so I can't truly comment on that. Aside from the basic necessities (tent/sleeping bag/water/etc), I'll be carrying my iPhone and a Garmin inReach Explorer on my Tour Divide trip next June.

thepetester 04-28-17 08:11 PM

Yeah im in a very dry dusty place so both of my last bikes were as such,I mean I DO lube my rides accordingly but it must be a combo of the type of dust and the type of lube being just exactly wrong,I just bought a used mtb for town cruising which was lubed enough but the deraillure snapped off so the chain must have stuck somewhere,this stuff here is like red powdery dust that turns solid when compressed,thanks though.

Happy Feet 04-28-17 11:07 PM

Did we ever determine what type of touring this was?

Otherwise seems a pretty ridiculous list to try to compile. I mean, why consider a tent a necessity when you are credit card touring? Why a cook stove when you are eating in cafes? Why knobby tires if you are touring on pavement? Or does the OP just want a list of every conceivable piece of kit a cyclist could possibly imagine and call it all necessity?

Towel and copy of HHGTTG (newly revised edition of course).

Darth Lefty 04-28-17 11:26 PM

The mountaineering approach is the Ten Essentials. Many of which are not needed if you are still sort of participating in civilization.

New Ten Essentials - A System Approach


Ten Essentials: The Classic List
  1. Map
  2. Compass
  3. Sunglasses and sunscreen
  4. Extra clothing
  5. Headlamp/flashlight
  6. First-aid supplies
  7. Firestarter
  8. Matches
  9. Knife
  10. Extra food
Ten Essential Systems
  1. Navigation (map & compass)
  2. Sun protection (sunglasses & sunscreen)
  3. Insulation (extra clothing)
  4. Illumination (headlamp/flashlight)
  5. First-aid supplies
  6. Fire (waterproof matches/lighter/candle)
  7. Repair kit and tools
  8. Nutrition (extra food)
  9. Hydration (extra water)
  10. Emergency shelter (tent/plastic tube tent/garbage bag)


jeanettebcrivel 04-29-17 01:58 AM

If you are going for bike journey you definitely need to have your bike, then money, first aid kit your proper riding gear then cloths, sunglasses. My brother was planning to go for a bike journey with his friends that time my father asked him to view online for the stuffs he should carry. He checked it out and found that sunglasses are an important part because while riding eyes get contact with dust and sunlight due to which eyes might get infected. So he did take his sunglass with him.

indyfabz 04-29-17 05:35 AM

The will.

saddlesores 04-29-17 07:32 AM

all you ever need:

1. P38
2. bowie knife
3. condom

(not necessarily in that order)

Squeezebox 04-29-17 07:48 AM

We'll never agree. I don't wear sunglasses. I don't even own an Ipad or laptop. I'm not much into photography. I must have bicycle shoes and slip on shoes. Where are you going? What time of year? Camping? Your list on the very same trip will be different than mine.
Short trips, like weekends, are great for figuring out what you want, need, and don't want.
A GPS in a remote area without smart phone service might be wise.
The big question is the difference between what you want and what you need.

reppans 04-29-17 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Squeezebox (Post 19546481)
A GPS in a remote area without smart phone service might be wise.

Smartphone GPSs work fine without cell service - you just need an app to download/store the maps into the smartphone. Not as battery efficient as regular GPS, but I only turn my GPS/radios on to spot check location anyways.

zebkedic 04-29-17 09:57 AM

Even google maps app for phones allows you to download offline maps so no service necessary. Agree however that phones seem to eat battery faster than a regular GPS.

Jim from Boston 04-29-17 10:36 AM

ABSOLUTE necessities?

Originally Posted by KD5NRH (Post 19544933)
And don't forget to take a nice suit; don't want to look like a weirdo in church.

I posted to this thread, Good touring clothes!

Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 19390029)
When I first read the title, I put the emphasis on “good,” as in “nice as one might wear to go to a nice restaurant, or a theater show, or maybe a cocktail party and not stand out.

Whe
n my wife and I crossed the country on our honeymoon, we were self-supported, and mostly in rural America. We did stop in Jefferson City, MO on her birthday, and went to a nice restaurant. I think we did both carry a nice pair of slacks and sports shirts.

…but in the meanwhile we learned social ballroom dancing, and that’s our main entertainment activity. So even if we were to go dancing at a casual place,like a bar, we both would like to have leather-soled shoes. However, were we to tour nowadays, we probably would go credit-card, or on an organized tour, and shoes would take up less space than a tent. :rolleyes:


stardognine 04-29-17 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Darth Lefty (Post 19546198)
The mountaineering approach is the Ten Essentials. Many of which are not needed if you are still sort of participating in civilization.

New Ten Essentials - A System Approach

Hey, you forgot the peanut M&Ms. 😁

DropBarFan 04-29-17 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by 79pmooney (Post 19543853)
Dr Bronner's Castile Soap. Only soap you'll need. Works for bathing, hair (might want some conditioner), clothes, dishes, bike parts and very well on any flesh exposed to poison ivy or oak. I'm sure there are many other uses.

Ben

I've used Bronner's for decades, good stuff. OTOH 3rd week of the no-soap thing & haven't stunk despite recent warm weather & skin feels a bit better. Of course it's good to have something to wash away poison ivy, plain water would probably just spread the urushiol oil around.

GPS isn't an absolute necessity but can be a big help when lost.

Water is the #1 absolute necessity, 2-L plastic water/soda bottles are light & almost free, good for getting thru some remoter stretches.


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