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king_boru 04-29-17 10:42 PM

Baby wipes or body wipes aka the ones in old folks home work well in a pinch. It's worth having a pack on hand for a quick once over.

indyfabz 04-30-17 04:09 AM

Logic tells us that if GPS were a necessity no one would have toured before it became available to the general public.

J.Higgins 04-30-17 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by DropBarFan (Post 19547811)
I've used Bronner's for decades, good stuff. OTOH 3rd week of the no-soap thing & haven't stunk despite recent warm weather & skin feels a bit better. Of course it's good to have something to wash away poison ivy, plain water would probably just spread the urushiol oil around.

GPS isn't an absolute necessity but can be a big help when lost.

Water is the #1 absolute necessity, 2-L plastic water/soda bottles are light & almost free, good for getting thru some remoter stretches.

You said, "OTOH 3rd week of the no-soap thing & haven't stunk despite recent warm weather & skin feels a bit better." This is what my barber was telling me to do. He claims that soap is the worst thing your your hair and skin. He's a young feller - late twentyish - and a friend of the family. He's one of the new type of barbers that are seriously into their craft. Anyhow, I've tried the no soap thing and it works. Old habits die hard though.

My favorite flavor of Dr. Bronner's is eucalyptus. Its the perfect addition to a hot soak in the tub. I used to take a very small bottle of it on hikes. Great for washing up out on the trail.

thepetester 04-30-17 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 19547962)
Logic tells us that if GPS were a necessity no one would have toured before it became available to the general public.

Yep there's a lot to be said for logic I just figured that seeing as how it would be my first foray outside of town that I'd run it by you guy's first,it would really suck if needed one and didn't have one.

Trevtassie 04-30-17 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 19547962)
Logic tells us that if GPS were a necessity no one would have toured before it became available to the general public.

All those comedians making up sketches about lost husbands refusing to ask for help weren't basing that on some kind of reality...

If somebody who was from my state pulled up and asked me for directions now I'd treat them with a bit of suspicion, unless they were obviously old and didn't have a handle on technology.

Of course it also depends on where you are touring, try standing at a minor intersection in Japan or China and matching up the symbols on your map to to ones on the signs, yep, you can do it eventually, but hey, why ignore another source of information just because they didn't do that in the old days.

Doug64 04-30-17 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Trevtassie (Post 19549267)
All those comedians making up sketches about lost husbands refusing to ask for help weren't basing that on some kind of reality...

If somebody who was from my state pulled up and asked me for directions now I'd treat them with a bit of suspicion, unless they were obviously old and didn't have a handle on technology.

Of course it also depends on where you are touring, try standing at a minor intersection in Japan or China and matching up the symbols on your map to to ones on the signs, yep, you can do it eventually, but hey, why ignore another source of information just because they didn't do that in the old days.

Technology is nice, but it is not an absolute necessity. In most North American tours it isn't even a necessity. I find GPS/smart phone really handy for getting through large cities. Once out in the rural areas things are relatively simple.

GamblerGORD53 04-30-17 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 19547962)
Logic tells us that if GPS were a necessity no one would have toured before it became available to the general public.

:foo:
The population was 2/3 back then. Freeways were 1/10th. A whole lot of highways were 1 lane a side.
Nice try tho.

BigAura 04-30-17 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by saddlesores (Post 19546456)
all you ever need:

1. P38
2. bowie knife
3. condom

(not necessarily in that order)

For me in the past ten years of touring:

1. P38*

/done

*oops --> with more & more pull-tops probably not needed either

final answer: you don't NEED anything!

indyfabz 04-30-17 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53 (Post 19549435)
:foo:
The population was 2/3 back then. Freeways were 1/10th. A whole lot of highways were 1 lane a side.
Nice try tho.

Then how have I been able to tour as recently as this Easter weekend without GPS?

indyfabz 04-30-17 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Trevtassie (Post 19549267)
All those comedians making up sketches about lost husbands refusing to ask for help weren't basing that on some kind of reality...

If somebody who was from my state pulled up and asked me for directions now I'd treat them with a bit of suspicion, unless they were obviously old and didn't have a handle on technology.

Of course it also depends on where you are touring, try standing at a minor intersection in Japan or China and matching up the symbols on your map to to ones on the signs, yep, you can do it eventually, but hey, why ignore another source of information just because they didn't do that in the old days.

I rode across the U.S. and then some back in '99 without GPS (or a cell phone). 'Bout 6000 miles. I will admit that I did get "lost" briefly 3 times.

79pmooney 04-30-17 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 19547962)
Logic tells us that if GPS were a necessity no one would have toured before it became available to the general public.

Or ... this is demonstration of law of conservation of intelligence. (Much like conservation of energy.) Before these devices, the human brain had some pretty amazing powers. Now it needs GPS to find Target. In 10 years, it will need a self-driving car to get there.

Ben

indyfabz 04-30-17 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by 79pmooney (Post 19549672)
before these devices, the human brain had some pretty amazing powers. Now it needs gps to find target. In 10 years, it will need a self-driving car to get there.

ftw!

saddlesores 05-01-17 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Trevtassie (Post 19549267)
...try standing at a minor intersection in Japan or China and matching up the symbols on your map to to ones on the signs, yep, you can do it eventually,.....

don't be too sure about that!

Trevtassie 05-01-17 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by saddlesores (Post 19550111)
don't be too sure about that!

LOL, "are you sure that's the right squiggle dear?"

stardognine 05-01-17 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by saddlesores (Post 19550111)
don't be too sure about that!

This is a perfect example of where you'd need peanut M&Ms. It'd take about 45 minutes to figure that sign out, and you'd need to eat something. Or you could just bribe someone for directions, with the M&Ms. 😁

DropBarFan 05-02-17 02:02 AM


Originally Posted by 79pmooney (Post 19549672)
Or ... this is demonstration of law of conservation of intelligence. (Much like conservation of energy.) Before these devices, the human brain had some pretty amazing powers. Now it needs GPS to find Target. In 10 years, it will need a self-driving car to get there.

Ben

Mostly lived in DC region & it's still the most confusing area for routing I've ever seen. Roads cross each other, change names etc. OTOH on last regional tour I used phone to re-route after getting side-tracked & the phone sent me 15 miles out of the way. Also seen some Pennsylvania areas where road signage is very sparse.

Doug64 05-02-17 10:54 AM

Paper maps still work. State bike route guides, and a road map are readily available, and are great supplements to phones and GPS units.

Jim from Boston 05-02-17 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by DropBarFan (Post 19553046)
Mostly lived in DC region & it's still the most confusing area for routing I've ever seen. Roads cross each other, change names etc. OTOH on last regional tour I used phone to re-route after getting side-tracked & the phone sent me 15 miles out of the way. Also seen some Pennsylvania areas where road signage is very sparse.

Originally Posted by Doug64 (Post 19554059)
Paper maps still work. State bike route guides, and a road map are readily available, and are great supplements to phones and GPS units.


Same with Boston. My favorite map is the Metropolitan AAA road map. Scale is appropriate to provide detail to find good roads, but covers enough distance, about 50-60 miles from downtown, to plot a century. I use my phone to locate myself on the paper map.

I
have used one for DC too, as well as Philadelphia and Toronto.

Darth Lefty 05-02-17 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by saddlesores (Post 19550111)
don't be too sure about that!

Oh good, I've always wanted to see coq83

ecnewell 05-02-17 11:58 AM

Someone mentioned good clothes. Personally, I've grown quite fond of Merino wool for all my outdoor activities. It's soft, comfortable in a wide range of temperatures, and most importantly, it is INCREDIBLY odor-resistant. I've worn the same shirt for 5 days straight without showering, and it passed the sniff test on the 6th day. Me, on the other hand...

stardognine 05-02-17 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by ecnewell (Post 19554279)
Someone mentioned good clothes. Personally, I've grown quite fond of Merino wool for all my outdoor activities. It's soft, comfortable in a wide range of temperatures, and most importantly, it is INCREDIBLY odor-resistant. I've worn the same shirt for 5 days straight without showering, and it passed the sniff test on the 6th day. Me, on the other hand...

LOL, I'll second that. 😁 That's why we need those wet wipes, for mobile bathing. 😉 I've been experimenting with thrift store finds, since it's way cheaper that way, and I'm really liking the wool blends. Like the sweater I'm wearing now, is 80% polyester & 20% wool, so it keeps you warm, doesn't smell, and most surprisingly, doesn't shrink. 😎

cdnguy 05-02-17 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by saddlesores (Post 19546456)
all you ever need:

1. P38
2. bowie knife
3. condom

(not necessarily in that order)

Haha, this is the best!

GamblerGORD53 05-02-17 10:03 PM

Try riding in Vietnam cities. Most of the blocks are triangles. Plus one of those streets will likely be one way. Almost every circle has 5 or 6 exits and doesn't have lanes. Street names do not always continue very far. Millions of motorcycles, but NEVER will 2 be going the same speed. ha

u235 05-02-17 10:59 PM

Maybe not something you buy but a good skill to have. Snot rocket clear of you and your stuff

raceboy 05-02-17 11:04 PM

Absolute bike touring necessities? Bike. Map. Desire.


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