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Baby wipes or body wipes aka the ones in old folks home work well in a pinch. It's worth having a pack on hand for a quick once over.
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Logic tells us that if GPS were a necessity no one would have toured before it became available to the general public.
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Originally Posted by DropBarFan
(Post 19547811)
I've used Bronner's for decades, good stuff. OTOH 3rd week of the no-soap thing & haven't stunk despite recent warm weather & skin feels a bit better. Of course it's good to have something to wash away poison ivy, plain water would probably just spread the urushiol oil around.
GPS isn't an absolute necessity but can be a big help when lost. Water is the #1 absolute necessity, 2-L plastic water/soda bottles are light & almost free, good for getting thru some remoter stretches. My favorite flavor of Dr. Bronner's is eucalyptus. Its the perfect addition to a hot soak in the tub. I used to take a very small bottle of it on hikes. Great for washing up out on the trail. |
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 19547962)
Logic tells us that if GPS were a necessity no one would have toured before it became available to the general public.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 19547962)
Logic tells us that if GPS were a necessity no one would have toured before it became available to the general public.
If somebody who was from my state pulled up and asked me for directions now I'd treat them with a bit of suspicion, unless they were obviously old and didn't have a handle on technology. Of course it also depends on where you are touring, try standing at a minor intersection in Japan or China and matching up the symbols on your map to to ones on the signs, yep, you can do it eventually, but hey, why ignore another source of information just because they didn't do that in the old days. |
Originally Posted by Trevtassie
(Post 19549267)
All those comedians making up sketches about lost husbands refusing to ask for help weren't basing that on some kind of reality...
If somebody who was from my state pulled up and asked me for directions now I'd treat them with a bit of suspicion, unless they were obviously old and didn't have a handle on technology. Of course it also depends on where you are touring, try standing at a minor intersection in Japan or China and matching up the symbols on your map to to ones on the signs, yep, you can do it eventually, but hey, why ignore another source of information just because they didn't do that in the old days. |
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 19547962)
Logic tells us that if GPS were a necessity no one would have toured before it became available to the general public.
The population was 2/3 back then. Freeways were 1/10th. A whole lot of highways were 1 lane a side. Nice try tho. |
Originally Posted by saddlesores
(Post 19546456)
all you ever need:
1. P38 2. bowie knife 3. condom (not necessarily in that order) 1. P38* /done *oops --> with more & more pull-tops probably not needed either final answer: you don't NEED anything! |
Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53
(Post 19549435)
:foo:
The population was 2/3 back then. Freeways were 1/10th. A whole lot of highways were 1 lane a side. Nice try tho. |
Originally Posted by Trevtassie
(Post 19549267)
All those comedians making up sketches about lost husbands refusing to ask for help weren't basing that on some kind of reality...
If somebody who was from my state pulled up and asked me for directions now I'd treat them with a bit of suspicion, unless they were obviously old and didn't have a handle on technology. Of course it also depends on where you are touring, try standing at a minor intersection in Japan or China and matching up the symbols on your map to to ones on the signs, yep, you can do it eventually, but hey, why ignore another source of information just because they didn't do that in the old days. |
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 19547962)
Logic tells us that if GPS were a necessity no one would have toured before it became available to the general public.
Ben |
Originally Posted by 79pmooney
(Post 19549672)
before these devices, the human brain had some pretty amazing powers. Now it needs gps to find target. In 10 years, it will need a self-driving car to get there.
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Originally Posted by Trevtassie
(Post 19549267)
...try standing at a minor intersection in Japan or China and matching up the symbols on your map to to ones on the signs, yep, you can do it eventually,.....
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Originally Posted by saddlesores
(Post 19550111)
don't be too sure about that!
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Originally Posted by saddlesores
(Post 19550111)
don't be too sure about that!
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
(Post 19549672)
Or ... this is demonstration of law of conservation of intelligence. (Much like conservation of energy.) Before these devices, the human brain had some pretty amazing powers. Now it needs GPS to find Target. In 10 years, it will need a self-driving car to get there.
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Paper maps still work. State bike route guides, and a road map are readily available, and are great supplements to phones and GPS units.
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Originally Posted by DropBarFan
(Post 19553046)
Mostly lived in DC region & it's still the most confusing area for routing I've ever seen. Roads cross each other, change names etc. OTOH on last regional tour I used phone to re-route after getting side-tracked & the phone sent me 15 miles out of the way. Also seen some Pennsylvania areas where road signage is very sparse.
Originally Posted by Doug64
(Post 19554059)
Paper maps still work. State bike route guides, and a road map are readily available, and are great supplements to phones and GPS units.
I have used one for DC too, as well as Philadelphia and Toronto. |
Originally Posted by saddlesores
(Post 19550111)
don't be too sure about that!
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Someone mentioned good clothes. Personally, I've grown quite fond of Merino wool for all my outdoor activities. It's soft, comfortable in a wide range of temperatures, and most importantly, it is INCREDIBLY odor-resistant. I've worn the same shirt for 5 days straight without showering, and it passed the sniff test on the 6th day. Me, on the other hand...
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Originally Posted by ecnewell
(Post 19554279)
Someone mentioned good clothes. Personally, I've grown quite fond of Merino wool for all my outdoor activities. It's soft, comfortable in a wide range of temperatures, and most importantly, it is INCREDIBLY odor-resistant. I've worn the same shirt for 5 days straight without showering, and it passed the sniff test on the 6th day. Me, on the other hand...
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Originally Posted by saddlesores
(Post 19546456)
all you ever need:
1. P38 2. bowie knife 3. condom (not necessarily in that order) |
Try riding in Vietnam cities. Most of the blocks are triangles. Plus one of those streets will likely be one way. Almost every circle has 5 or 6 exits and doesn't have lanes. Street names do not always continue very far. Millions of motorcycles, but NEVER will 2 be going the same speed. ha
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Maybe not something you buy but a good skill to have. Snot rocket clear of you and your stuff
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Absolute bike touring necessities? Bike. Map. Desire.
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