Touring Tyre Pressure
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I'd second those saying to try a few different pressures yourself and see what the difference feels like.
Normally I'm a "don't care too much about the pressure, pinch and make sure it's not flat" guy, but my last trip, I found when loaded down the tires had to stay near the max or it was like dragging a boat anchor. Wasn't an issue unloaded, but max pressure on the tires were 80, when it dropped into the 65-70 range it was a very noticeable issue.
Normally I'm a "don't care too much about the pressure, pinch and make sure it's not flat" guy, but my last trip, I found when loaded down the tires had to stay near the max or it was like dragging a boat anchor. Wasn't an issue unloaded, but max pressure on the tires were 80, when it dropped into the 65-70 range it was a very noticeable issue.
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That's a bit odd considering https://www.schwalbetires.com/tech_i...ation_pressure gives some generic guidelines & notes the pressure range stamped on tires. Perhaps Schwalbe avoids individual recommendations for legal reasons. For my 135 lb weight & 50mm tires the chart says to use ~40 psi, a bit lower than I would have guessed.
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I've been drinking the Berto/Heine "15% drop" Kool-Aid for 7 or 8 years now, and it hasn't steered me wrong yet. I'm far more comfortable than I was when I maxed out the tire pressure, haven't had any pinch flats, and it doesn't seem to have slowed me down any.
But, I think Jobst Brandt had a legitimate objection to the low front tire pressures these calculations give if your bike has a lot of weight in the rear (40/60 or 35/65 weight distribution) on level ground -- if you're touring on steep hills and need to brake hard on a downhill, nearly all of your weight will transfer to the front wheel, and it needs to be suitably inflated to avoid bottoming out at that critical moment.
So, I use a 45/55 weight distribution for every bike in my stable, whether that's "correct" or not. And then I take whatever the calculator gives me and round up to the next 5 lbs for ease in reading my pump, and to give a little safety margin.
Thus, for the example in the OP, with a 231 lb total weight and a 45/55 weight distribution on 37mm tires (these Schwalbes are marked 37-622), the calculator tells me to put 46 psi in the front tire and 56 psi in the rear. Round those up to 50 and 60, and you'll have something that's a hell of a lot more comfortable than 80 psi, but still very resistant to pinch flats.
But, I think Jobst Brandt had a legitimate objection to the low front tire pressures these calculations give if your bike has a lot of weight in the rear (40/60 or 35/65 weight distribution) on level ground -- if you're touring on steep hills and need to brake hard on a downhill, nearly all of your weight will transfer to the front wheel, and it needs to be suitably inflated to avoid bottoming out at that critical moment.
So, I use a 45/55 weight distribution for every bike in my stable, whether that's "correct" or not. And then I take whatever the calculator gives me and round up to the next 5 lbs for ease in reading my pump, and to give a little safety margin.
Thus, for the example in the OP, with a 231 lb total weight and a 45/55 weight distribution on 37mm tires (these Schwalbes are marked 37-622), the calculator tells me to put 46 psi in the front tire and 56 psi in the rear. Round those up to 50 and 60, and you'll have something that's a hell of a lot more comfortable than 80 psi, but still very resistant to pinch flats.
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I think that the 15 percent tire drop described at this link is a good starting point for rear tires:
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2016/...ure-take-home/
I could not find the original article on line anymore, perhaps it disappeared? But I found the above link instead.
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2016/...ure-take-home/
I could not find the original article on line anymore, perhaps it disappeared? But I found the above link instead.
For what it's worth, the original article is still on their site (for now), they just moved it around: https://www.compasscycle.com/wp-cont...BQTireDrop.pdf
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