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djb 12-24-19 10:58 PM

Many a blood splotch have been on our tents over the decades...

TiHabanero 12-26-19 07:30 PM

Cycommute, what size rear panniers are on the Cannondale?

cyccommute 12-26-19 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by TiHabanero (Post 21259469)
Cycommute, what size rear panniers are on the Cannondale?

They are Ortlieb front and rear rollers. Front is 25L per pair and 40L per pair for the rear

Tourist in MSN 12-27-19 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 21257490)
Damn! That remind me of at least one place. Strawberry Lake in MN. I nearly ingested a few while eating breakfast the next morning. When I unpacked my tent at the end of the day there were blood spots on it from the mosquitoes that got crushed when I packed it up.

I grew up in Minnesota, mosquitoes are the unofficial state bird. But the photo was either from Nova Scotia or Prince Edward Island, not sure which.

What really surprised me was how many of the mosquitoes that were in the tent when I packed it in the morning survived for a day in the packed tent and were moving around in it when I made camp at night.

This year I tried the repellent Picaridin, it worked pretty well. Theoretically that does not damage your equipment like Deet can, and I did not observe any damage to anything from using it.
https://www.rei.com/product/887628/s...lotion-4-fl-oz

But there were one or two campsites where the bugs were so thick that I reverted to the tiny bottle of 100 percent Deet that I brought as a backup plan.

indyfabz 12-27-19 09:51 AM

[QUOTE=Tourist in MSN;21259860]
This year I tried the repellent Picaridin, it worked pretty well. Theoretically that does not damage your equipment like Deet can, and I did not observe any damage to anything from using it.
https://www.rei.com/product/887628/s...oz [/QUOTE]
Might have to give that a try. I have ruined some shorts with DEET. I really saw what it can do from a can of Off left in a box in my damp basement for years. The can started to corrode and some of the liquid leaked out. In the same box were some spare audio cables. The DEET melted the outside plastic covering.

berner 12-27-19 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN (Post 21257313)
Yup. The netting in my tent door looked like this on my bike tour this past summer.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2ae02c4e7e.jpg

Way back in my backpacking days while experimenting with a tarp, I spent a very miserable night trying to sleep in the middle of a cloud of mozzies while in a sleeping bag during a very hot summer night. The only reason I lived to tell the tale was due to a packet of Coleman mosquitio coils I kept going all night long

shauny 01-06-23 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by berner (Post 21250887)
So far most responders have indicated where on the bike they have carried a tent. In another look at the issue, imagine it has begun to rain, maybe heavily, toward the end of the day's ride. When you reach the intended campsite you would like to set up the tent as quickly as possible so that you and your stuff remain as dry as possible during the setup. A key to a quick tent setup is to prepare the tent in advance from the previous days setup. If the tent is folded up to an appropriate size for where it is to be carried, then rolled up from front to back with rain fly still in place but with poles removed, then for the current setup, the tent can first be staked at the back end so it can't be carried away by strong winds. At This point the poles are inserted and staking out completed. If you have tried to set up a tent in a downpour, then this procedure will keep everything dry over multiple days of rain.

thats a good point, my tent just packs away in a stuff sack so you don't have to do too much folding while packing away but that can come back to bite you when setting up in a storm and everything is twisted all over the place 😆

staehpj1 01-06-23 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by nun (Post 21255175)
A tarp and a bivy might end up being heavier or more volume than a single walled tent. If you use the hammock instead of the bivy the setup could also get heavy depending on the type of hammock and the number of quilts you need to take.

That depends to some degree on what kind of bivy you use. Some of the hooped bivys are heavy. The bivys I use are more like a loose sleeping bag cover. My bug bivy weighs about 5.3 ounces and my regular bivy weighs 7 ounces. There may be tents that get close depending on what tarp I take, but only if I take a bigger heavier tarp and compare with one of the very lightest possible tents. I will note that none of my stuff is the very lightest most expensive fabrics so it wasn't particularly expensive coompared to other setups even heavy ones.

Claude.fr 01-06-23 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 21250009)


Cool mini panniers.
Can’t read the name, though
Rock.....?

Yan 01-06-23 04:17 PM

Either go light or go comfortable. Commit one way or the other. If you're going for streamlined bikepacking setup like this, you might as well go all the way an use a ultralight bivy sack. If you want to do this kind of sporty setup, but nevertheless insist on bringing along the usual perk items such as a full blown tent, then all you're going to end up with is a monstrosity setup with a bunch of dumb mushrooms strapped everywhere. "Pouchitis". That bike will be crying out for a mercy killing. To answer your question: you're going to have to get some rope and strap that tent somewhere, anywhere. Wherever you can get it to not fall off.

Don't use a cheap tent. Buying a trash tent is like marrying the first trash person you meet. It might be easy at first, but by day two you'll realize you've ****ed yourself bigtime.



Originally Posted by rivers (Post 21249735)
Thanks. These are my bags (without frame bag) on my road bike for a trip I did last summer. I will be using my CX/gravel bike for this trip as the frame geometry is slightly different and I have more frame clearance, bigger handlebars and better gearing. My problem with strapping the poles to the handlebar bag is they are too long (50cm poles, 40cm handlebars), so they will need to be secured to the outside of my saddlebag.


cyccommute 01-06-23 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Claude.fr (Post 22760135)
Cool mini panniers.
Can’t read the name, though
Rock.....?

RockBros. They are the small handlebar pocket in the link. 5 to 6 L per side. They are actually meant to be used as a front pocket on bikepacking bags. I use an Ortlieb bracket for my trunk bag and adapted these to that adapter.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...169101a40.jpeg

They use velcro straps to hold in place on the handlebar so I adapted them.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...90998ad51.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a08c0501c.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...883df54a7.jpeg

I’ve got larger panniers (but much smaller than regular front panniers) from Mesabi that are a little larger. I kind of like the small ones, however.

Here’s those in the wild.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...56d67c6d9.jpeg

Claude.fr 01-07-23 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 22760423)
RockBros. They are the small handlebar pocket in the link. 5 to 6 L per side. They are actually meant to be used as a front pocket on bikepacking bags. I use an Ortlieb bracket for my trunk bag and adapted these to that adapter.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...169101a40.jpeg

They use velcro straps to hold in place on the handlebar so I adapted them.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...90998ad51.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a08c0501c.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...883df54a7.jpeg

I’ve got larger panniers (but much smaller than regular front panniers) from Mesabi that are a little larger. I kind of like the small ones, however.

Here’s those in the wild.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...56d67c6d9.jpeg

Salut CC,

Thanks, that’s a clever idea, you had.
Before I asked, I tried my luck with Google starting with “Rear Mini pannier” unsuccessfully, then I thought, maybe they are front panniers installed on a rear rack but Nope.
No wonder I couldn’t find what these cool “panniers” were.
;-)
Much flatter than “proper” rear mini panniers, no protruding bulge at the rear.
I might copy that.

Miele Man 01-08-23 12:23 AM

I think that the OP in 2019 was asking about how to pack his tent poles not the tent itself.

For whatever it's worth; I cut the fiberglass rods (that form the hoops of my tent) in half and then added a brass end (the same diameter as the originals) to the cut piece. Then I replaced the interior shock cord (much easier to do with the shorter rods). The poles are now much more compact when packed and can go on either the front or rear rack.

Cheers

imi 01-08-23 06:41 AM

One advantage of a free standing tent is that in rain you can pitch it under a roofed area of a campsite, then just carry it to your spot.

Easier to move if your spot gets waterlogged too.

irwin7638 01-09-23 10:24 AM

If I understand, your question is not where to put it but how to put it in there. I found it best to just take a corner of the rainfly, and push it into the bag without folding or rolling it. After you have shoved the whole thing down and compacted the air out, take the tent section and push it in randomly as well, just pushing it down until it's squeezed down as much as possible. This makes sense after you've done it a few times. It's something I learned from years of working with Boy Scouts. Folding and/or rolling the tent to put it away will create creases that get used over and over and the fabric will eventually weaken and leak at those points. Just stuffing it into the bag is not only easier, it will make the tent last longer. I also carry the poles separately on the outside of my saddlebag.

Marc

rivers 01-09-23 02:40 PM

Hello thread resurrection! For what's worth, I ended up velcroing those tent poles to my downtube. However, I've since sold that tent and acquired a new tent with shorter poles that fit in between my handlebars (Alpkit Soloist) and a hooped bivvy, which also fits in between my handlebars or even in a number of my bags (Alpkit Elan).

nun 01-11-23 03:49 PM

I just replaced an aging Tarptent Contrail with their new Protrail. I went for the nylon version not the twice as expensive ultra light version, but it's still very light and packs down even smaller than the Contrail. I bought the two tent poles and they are short enough to fit easily across my Carradice Nelson Longflap saddle bag and the tent itself packs down very small in a compression sack and fits easily in the saddle bag with the rest of my gear.

djb 01-11-23 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by nun (Post 22765721)
I just replaced an aging Tarptent Contrail with their new Protrail. I went for the nylon version not the twice as expensive ultra light version, but it's still very light and packs down even smaller than the Contrail. I bought the two tent poles and they are short enough to fit easily across my Carradice Nelson Longflap saddle bag and the tent itself packs down very small in a compression sack and fits easily in the saddle bag with the rest of my gear.

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he lives!
Howdy again btw

nun 01-11-23 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by djb (Post 22765842)
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he lives!
Howdy again btw

Yes and Thanks, last couple of years have been quiet for obvious reasons. Now back at it and touring again.

djb 01-11-23 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by nun (Post 22765890)
Yes and Thanks, last couple of years have been quiet for obvious reasons. Now back at it and touring again.

Good. I actually thought of you this summer, when going from Montreal to Quebec city , and used my cross bike (lightest, fastest bike I have) with only my handlebar bag and a seatbag. Was fun going so fast, partially due to light weight, but also not having the sail effect of panniers. Anyway, unusual for me to be minimalist like that, so was a fun change.
Cheers

Calsun 01-26-23 12:55 PM

I took a tent that I shared with my companion on my first tour but after that took only a ground cloth that I could use with a line to keep the bags dry from rain or morning dew. Saved a lot of time breaking camp and getting back on the road. One could also take a bivey sack.


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