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Old 07-26-07 | 05:18 PM
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I just bought a 58cm Long Haul Trucker and was thinking about getting a frame pump to mount underneath the top tube. Anybody use these? If so which one? There doesn't seem to be too many reviews of this type of pump. If not, what do you recommend? Thanks in advance.

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Old 07-26-07 | 05:58 PM
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I like the Zefal 4 pump for my large frame. I add a velcro strap to help hold it on.
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Old 07-26-07 | 06:04 PM
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I have a Zefal as well. I couldn't imagine using a mini pump. Mine stays in place just fine without a velcro strap but it would probably be a good idea just to be safe.

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Old 07-26-07 | 06:28 PM
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Zefal HPX would be my choice for a full-sized frame pump. Do use a velcro strap or two to secure it, because if it's just the frame fit, it can be knocked loose. That being said, I have a small frame, and I've been making do with a Blackburn AS-1 minipump for a decade now. It pumps on both the up and the down strokes. I find that works well enough (but not as fast as a frame pump). This is a "road bike" minipump. Many people have only tried minipumps that are more intended for mountain bikes, but these aren't suitable because the wider barrel requires arms of steel to pump up a road tire.
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Old 07-27-07 | 05:03 PM
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I've got an inexpensive Nashbar frame pump on mine. The LHT frame has a little stud on the back of the head tube that mates up perfectly with a little hole in one end of the pump. The angle between the top tube and the head tube is greater than 90 degrees, so without the stud the end of the pump would slip out. The other end of the pump fits up into the angle between the top tube and the seat tube, which is less than 90 degrees, so it stays wedged up into the angle. The pump itself is spring loaded so that the two ends are pushed apart by the spring, thereby holding the pump into position.

Be careful to buy a pump that is the correct length for the space it's going to fit in - for my LHT (60cm frame) the largest one is perfect.

The pump stays in position perfectly, and I have no trouble pumping my 700 x 28's up to 105 lbs with it.



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Old 07-28-07 | 12:39 PM
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I like to mount a frame pump behind the seat tube. It is handy, yet out of the way. And I can carry the bike on my shoulder if circumstances require.
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Old 07-29-07 | 07:07 AM
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I like to mount a frame pump behind the seat tube. It is handy, yet out of the way. And I can carry the bike on my shoulder if circumstances require.
Yeah, I've seen that done and it looks like a good place to mount it. I have an old-fashioned Pyramid-brand frame pump (one of those jobbies where the hose stores in the handle, and you switch it to the business end to use the pump) that came with two brackets that fit around the frame tube, and the end of the pump spring-loads onto studs on the bracket. That kind of pump/bracket would work, and since it's chrome plated would probably look kind of retro-cool on my Trucker. I have a mini pump on my mountain bike that clips onto brackets that mount to bottle-cage bosses, but I've never seen brackets that would allow a frame pump to mount behind the seat tube. Any suggestions as to where one could find such a thing?
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Old 07-29-07 | 08:05 AM
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...I've never seen brackets that would allow a frame pump to mount behind the seat tube. Any suggestions as to where one could find such a thing?
Here: https://www.thethirdhand.com/index.cg...d=948162422564

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Old 07-29-07 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NFM
I just bought a 58cm Long Haul Trucker and was thinking about getting a frame pump to mount underneath the top tube. Anybody use these? If so which one? There doesn't seem to be too many reviews of this type of pump. If not, what do you recommend? Thanks in advance.

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Save yourself a lot of head aches and go with the Topeak Road Morph. I've had lots of Zefals in the past (run over a whole bunch of them) and, while they are good pumps, the Road Morph is 10 times better. You don't have to balance the bike while pumping, all of your energy goes to pumping the tire and you can put the pump on the ground to get more force. They are just plain better.

Here's mine on a my touring bike.





Or you can mount it under the water bottle cage.



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Old 07-29-07 | 02:27 PM
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cyccommute wrote "Save yourself a lot of head aches and go with the Topeak Road Morph"

I bought this pump a few weeks back baised on a post you made about this pump before. so far I like it. I mounted mine on the seat tube.
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Old 07-29-07 | 09:01 PM
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I've never seen brackets that would allow a frame pump to mount behind the seat tube. Any suggestions as to where one could find such a thing?
You don't need a mount I have a Blackburn and it comes in 4 sizes (I think) and has a spring in it with rubber on both ends. It presses between the chainstay and the downstays.. I really like mine.
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Old 07-30-07 | 10:51 AM
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I have a (probably) 20 year old Zefal on my road bike. Highly recommended.

On my LHT I have a Topeak Road Morph. It has the advantage that it has a hose which connects it to the tube stem and so puts less stress on the tube when pumping. It also has a built-in pressure gauge. If you are lucky to find the right surface it also can be used as a floor pump. My LHT is a 54cm with the 26" tires and there is room to mount the Road Morph on the rear side of the seat post. Doubt you can do this on the 700c versions. Road Morph is highly recommended also.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Save yourself a lot of head aches and go with the Topeak Road Morph. I've had lots of Zefals in the past (run over a whole bunch of them) and, while they are good pumps, the Road Morph is 10 times better. You don't have to balance the bike while pumping, all of your energy goes to pumping the tire and you can put the pump on the ground to get more force. They are just plain better.
This is very good advice.

I have a 1991 vintage zefal, it still works. Looks pretty on the bike under top tube. Doesnt pump worth a crap compared to the Topeak.

The Topeak has a teensy foot peg which lets you anchor it to the ground, with both hands on pump handle, so it works like a little floor pump. Works pretty good, much easier than the old zefal. The pressure gauge even works pretty good. It's the best pump you can carry.

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Old 07-31-07 | 09:15 AM
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Road Morph for sure. I keep it in a pannier, just one less thing to cause drag or fall off. The other tool is the Quick Stick for ripping the tires off. With those two and some quality patches the odd tire change is nearly a pleasure.
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Old 07-31-07 | 03:12 PM
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I use the road morph on all my bikes. i've started using the rear triangle (non-chain side) as the attachment point (i used to live in a 4th floor walk-up so i had to have the top tube clear for carrying). I love the hose at the end, keeps me from yanking stems around while pumping since i'm not all that coordinated.
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Old 08-01-07 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Save yourself a lot of head aches and go with the Topeak Road Morph. I've had lots of Zefals in the past (run over a whole bunch of them) and, while they are good pumps, the Road Morph is 10 times better. You don't have to balance the bike while pumping, all of your energy goes to pumping the tire and you can put the pump on the ground to get more force. They are just plain better.

Here's mine on a my touring bike.

Does that pump have a guage? I tend to underinflate when changing a flat.
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Old 08-01-07 | 10:59 AM
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Road Morph. I have 3 of them and they're just simply great pumps. And yes, it has a gauge. Currently on sale at Nashbar for about $25. Can't beat it.
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Old 08-01-07 | 11:15 AM
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Topeak is amazing. I have a road morph that worked well but I lost the pieces and they immediately mailed me replacements.
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Old 08-01-07 | 11:32 AM
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I was wondering how long it would take before someone mentions the Topeak. I use it myself and it's great. I use a bottle cage mount so I can lift my bike up to my appartment on the 3rd floor.
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You can also buy the entire rebuild kit for that really long tour we all dream of! Mine's never given me any issue yet after four years. Not sure if you can still get parts for any of my Zefals, think they kinda went by the wasteside several years ago. (I really miss my DoubleShot floor pump!)
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Topeak is amazing. I have a road morph that worked well but I lost the pieces and they immediately mailed me replacements.
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You guys in the States are lucky. I wanted to add a gauge to my Topeak pump but the canadian distributor won't sell them. They have a near monopoly on bike stuff here. I heard good things about the USA distributor so I emailed them and they replied very quickly but they can't deal with Canucks.
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The Topeak pump is not that great. The Zefal is way superior to it...at least in my opinion, and God knows that ain't worth schit!!

Some of you are still stuck on the mini's of 6 years ago by saying their useless, that comment in some cases is no longer true. Sure there are some mini pumps on the market that are crap, but today we have at least 6 different brands of mini's that can reach 140psi, and can easily reach 120psi which is about the max psi most people put into clinchers anyways. I'm pushing 70 and use a mini all the time and can almost effortlessly put in 115 in my rear which is the most I put in; and just to see if I could I went as high as 130 with some effort but knew I could get to 140 with a struggle.

I just bought the Serfas Bullet mini because it looked very rugged with all CNC construction, and it pumps to my 115 level easily. Blackburn Airstick says they can reach 160; Barbieri Carbone reaches 140 (I had one but if fell off my bike and the carbon body cracked); Barbieri Titan made of TI is expensive but maybe instructable? SKS Wese gets to 144psi. And there's other manufactures as well.

Don't let a mini scare you off because you have to work a little harder. I own an older Zefal frame pump and I love it for touring, but I take the mini for backup; however I use the mini only when not touring and leave the Zefal at home.
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Does that pump have a guage? I tend to underinflate when changing a flat.
Some models do and some don't. Depends on what flavor you want. All of my road ones have gauges. They aren't great gauges but good enough.
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Old 08-04-07 | 11:43 PM
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I love the Topeak Road Morph. I used to have a Zefel frame pump for my touring bike but, after using the Road Morph that I got for my road bike (which gets more flats than the touring bike), I got one for the touring bike. It's much easier to use because it works like a small floor pump so it takes less effort.
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