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openmindedgent 02-12-08 12:51 PM

I got a free bike, how did i do?
 
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It is a Cannondale, not sure of the model, it is 3.0 series aluminum and is just about the perfect size for me. A friend I am beginning to train with gave it to me for the trip and then some if I want. I am getting new rims and tires and all the other good stuff but for now I think I scored a sweet deal, let me know what you think!

openmindedgent 02-12-08 12:52 PM

I guess I am wondering if 3.0 series aluminum will be strong enough for a 185lb rider and 50lb or less of equipment. I have been told by many many cyclists that steel is the only way to go but this seems pretty sturdy to me, and light!

Little Darwin 02-12-08 12:58 PM

I don't know what the issue is, but I have read negative opinions about the "outrigger" dropouts like on that frame. Since they were only on Cannondales for a year or two, I would guess that it is a strength/durability issue.

staehpj1 02-12-08 12:59 PM

I have a 3.0 series MTB that I raced and generally beat the hell out of, and I would have to say that it seemed pretty tough to me, given the years of hard riding.

nun 02-12-08 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by openmindedgent (Post 6152467)
It is a Cannondale, not sure of the model, it is 3.0 series aluminum and is just about the perfect size for me. A friend I am beginning to train with gave it to me for the trip and then some if I want. I am getting new rims and tires and all the other good stuff but for now I think I scored a sweet deal, let me know what you think!

That BB looks high to make a good tourer

openmindedgent 02-12-08 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by nun (Post 6152599)
That BB looks high to make a good tourer

sorry , BB?

haha, i am supposing you mean this looks good for a tour?

openmindedgent 02-12-08 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Little Darwin (Post 6152516)
I don't know what the issue is, but I have read negative opinions about the "outrigger" dropouts like on that frame. Since they were only on Cannondales for a year or two, I would guess that it is a strength/durability issue.



Yea I guess I could see the issue there because they come out a bit off the frame, but they are plated with another metal on one side and just generally look strong. Plus the guy I got it from is a bit bigger than me and rode hard. So I guess if they aint broke yet then they might not break.

The whole frame just generally feels good to me (and it was free) so I want to stick with it.


If anyone has had an issue with an older model Cannondales "outrigger" dropouts actually flat out breaking on them? Let me know!

staehpj1 02-12-08 01:29 PM

BB = Bottom Bracket
According to Sheldon Browns Glossary it is:
The part of the frame around which the pedal cranks revolve, also the bearings and axle assembly that runs through the bottom bracket shell of the frame.

I wouldn't worry too much about the height unless you find it uncomfortable for some reason. A dedicated tourer would have a lower BB.

staehpj1 02-12-08 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by openmindedgent (Post 6152678)
If anyone has had an issue with an older model Cannondales "outrigger" dropouts actually flat out breaking on them? Let me know!

I mentioned that I beat the hell out of a 3.0 model for years with no problems. That was off road and aggressive riding. That one had the same dropouts and I was a good bit heavier than you for some portion of that riding.

I think it will make a reasonable touring bike.

MrPolak 02-12-08 01:34 PM

Outriggers? I wold think a typical MTB with a 185lb rider would see higher loads when negotiating technical terrain than a tour bike... unless you are touring off road. I think pannier racks attach to the rear portion of these outriggers distributing the load. I used to have a road Cannondale with similar chainstays.

openmindedgent 02-12-08 02:04 PM

hahaha, yea i know what a bottom bracket is, I just didn't put two and two together, I thought she was talking about some type of toy gun or something... jk

I didn't think about how high it is, but like I said the bike feels ok so if it is an issue I will just make other adjustments as I train.

openmindedgent 02-12-08 02:07 PM

Well I am pretty confident in my new bike so now comes the conversion, I will ask questions as they come.

Thank you so much for the feedback!

becnal 02-12-08 02:10 PM

If it's comfortable and free, you can't do much better. Happy riding.

treebound 02-12-08 02:20 PM

Before you get too far into it think about how you're going to carry your gear and see if it will work. One of the things I read about with touring bikes is the chainstay length when using panniers. Borrow a rack and panniers set and mount them up temporarily and see if you have any clearance issues.

openmindedgent 02-12-08 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by treebound (Post 6153024)
Before you get too far into it think about how you're going to carry your gear and see if it will work. One of the things I read about with touring bikes is the chainstay length when using panniers. Borrow a rack and panniers set and mount them up temporarily and see if you have any clearance issues.

Good thinking, but with my budget and my crafty skills I am going to try and build my own pannier racks so I will be able to work out the clearance issues. (my friend is in college to learn metal work so he is going to be welding me some custom equipment)

Thanks again, I will let you know how that works out.

Robert_in_ca 02-12-08 03:04 PM

Does it have rack eyelets? How about on the fork?

DuckFat 02-12-08 04:03 PM

Get a BoB trailer and go. That frame will be plenty strong and actually very well matched for a trailer because it won't flex and give you the wobblies. Putting panniers on it may be a bit dicier because you are riding high on that BB (as pointed out) and adding panniers will raise your center of gravity even more unless you can really go light and get all the heavy weight stuff below the axles.

NoReg 02-12-08 04:21 PM

Cannondale Al is certainly tour worthy.

I can see how some might question those rear drops. You could check witn Canondale and see if there were ever any problems. One thing about the internet is it only takes a few minor problems to get totaly blown out of proportion. If out of the universe of bike .01% have drops problems, and if this design never had a worse record than any other bike, it will still get trashed just for being different.

antokelly 02-12-08 04:55 PM

ah it's great to have friend's class looking bike as duck fat said get a bob trailer and just ride
what wheels and tyres have you on the bike they look pretty solid.best of irish.

openmindedgent 02-12-08 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Robert_in_ca (Post 6153318)
Does it have rack eyelets? How about on the fork?

Yes it does actually, I am already ordering a rear rack and some hardware to attach two big jugs of water to the forks.

Robert_in_ca 02-12-08 05:26 PM

Great! Sounds like it'll work just fine.

You might want to consider some bar ends or trekking bars so you can have more hand positions. Trekking bars will also allow your to sit up more straight when you want to.

openmindedgent 02-12-08 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by antokelly (Post 6153995)
ah it's great to have friend's class looking bike as duck fat said get a bob trailer and just ride
what wheels and tyres have you on the bike they look pretty solid.best of irish.

I dunno about the trailer, I don't want the hassle of feeling something behind me, I would rather have just 2 wheels on the ground. I am debating whether to order these racks or use a low profile design me and my friend can easily make over the weekend. I am aware of my center of gravity issue and I will tweak the bike as I convert it to a badass touring bike and basically do whatever I can to avoid using a trailer. I don't mean to put down the idea it is just an issue of personal preference I suppose.

About the tires: Cheng Shin Tires ? - and the wheelset: ARAYA.japan 26"x1.50" HE VP-20

The rear wheel is veeerrry untrue and I think it is unfixable due to the hub now being out of whack. The front tire seems a bit untrue but could be adjusted. I have been told to so with a better alloy than aluminum for rims or I would find myself in trouble when packing heavy. I am planning on doing this in a minimalist, buddhist style so I am thinking I should fix these rims with better less knobby tires and get rolling on what I've got. Thanks for the help.

openmindedgent 02-12-08 05:47 PM

Yep I am looking for a good set of trekking bars right now actually, from all the pictures of loaded rigs I have seen this is the best way to go. I will be covering them in foam and wrapping tape around that to keep the foam dry because I saw and liked this on another rig.

Robert_in_ca 02-12-08 06:08 PM

You can order them off ebay for 20 bucks or so shipped.

Are the spokes on the wheels rusted or corroded? You may just want to buy a new wheelset.

staehpj1 02-12-08 06:35 PM

Trekking bars:
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...B%20Handlebars
On sale $17.99, then use 10% coupon code of W240 that's supposed to be good until 03/06/08.

CaDan 02-12-08 07:29 PM

And then stick some bar ends on to the trekking bars.

openmindedgent 02-13-08 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Robert_in_ca (Post 6154391)
You can order them off ebay for 20 bucks or so shipped.

Are the spokes on the wheels rusted or corroded? You may just want to buy a new wheelset.

Cool, thanks.

The wheels are just fine but the rear hub really makes me nervous and besides, I am beginning to think about disc brakes so a whole new wheelset is most likely the purchase I will make after the handle-bars.

Little Darwin 02-13-08 07:25 AM

With positive histories from other posters on the rear dropouts, I think you are fine there (unless someone comes up with a definitive issue).

But as far as disc brakes, you are in for some expense, unless your friend is going to do some fabricating on the frame and fork to allow the use of discs. If your friend doesn't customize for you, you will need a new fork, and an adapter for the rear triangle. Since your rear triangle is fairly unique, I don't know if an adapter would work right, but this is not based on real information, just thoughts.

Then there is the cost of the brakes. :)

staehpj1 02-13-08 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by openmindedgent (Post 6156922)
Cool, thanks.

The wheels are just fine but the rear hub really makes me nervous and besides, I am beginning to think about disc brakes so a whole new wheelset is most likely the purchase I will make after the handle-bars.

Your description of the hub makes me wonder if all it needs is to be disassembled, repacked and properly adjusted.

What about the rear hub makes you nervous? Are the races pitted or something? Are there cracks at the spoke holes? Is there some other visible damage? Does it have fewer spokes than you consider necessary? If none of the above then it is probably fine.

I advise forgetting the disks. Most touring bikes (even expensive ones) don't use disks. If you are on a budget adding them makes no sense at all IMO. I would even go so far as to say, when bike shopping, if a touring bike had them it would be a strike against it for me.

Some folks like them, but I doubt most of them would go to the expense of adding them to an existing bike that wasn't designed for them. Doubly true if cost meant anything to them and if it didn't why not buy a dedicated touring bike?

openmindedgent 02-13-08 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Little Darwin (Post 6156982)
With positive histories from other posters on the rear dropouts, I think you are fine there (unless someone comes up with a definitive issue).

But as far as disc brakes, you are in for some expense, unless your friend is going to do some fabricating on the frame and fork to allow the use of discs. If your friend doesn't customize for you, you will need a new fork, and an adapter for the rear triangle. Since your rear triangle is fairly unique, I don't know if an adapter would work right, but this is not based on real information, just thoughts.

Then there is the cost of the brakes. :)


yes you are right there really is no point in going through all of that trouble, unless i was going to be riding through mudslides


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