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Old 08-10-08 | 08:10 PM
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Small Packing Sleeping Bag

I'm searching for small packing sleeping bags rated at about ~+30°F (0°C). I prefer one that is not a tight-fitting mummy style. My current sleeping bag seems to be reasonable quality (Kelty Tundra 15), but packs at 10 inches x 20 inches and is just too bulky for my preference.

So far the best bag I've found through a bit of searching is the Slumberjack SVCSS Delta Bag +30°F. It weights 2 pounds 4 oz, and packs into a small 7 inch x 7 inch stuff sack. It also seems to be roomy compared to other mummy-style bags I have reviewed. In case anyone is interested, here is a link:

https://www.slumberjack.com/product.a...FD9BGDSH679XYA

Anyone know of a similar small packing sleeping bag under $200?
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Old 08-10-08 | 08:21 PM
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I've got a Coleman mummy bag, good to 20. Stuff it in it's sack, and wrap two straps with fastex buckles, and pull it down to the size of a football. Mummy is your best option for size, warmth, and flexibility. You don't have to zip it if it's not cold. Less than $30.
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anything down.
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Old 08-10-08 | 10:21 PM
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western mountaineering summerlite

https://www.westernmountaineering.com...2&ContentId=69

or try a down quilt

www.jacksrbetter.com
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Old 08-10-08 | 10:49 PM
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I was looking for the same thing recently- not many rectangular light, warm weather bags. I ended up with a different model from Slumberjack (Tourlite) for $70 at a local sporting goods store. It`s also a fairly roomy mummy style, thermolite filling, and rolls up to about the size of a large oatmeal container. I don`t think I`d use it alone at the rated temp (40 F), but I tried it out in my backyard in hot weather and it doesn`t feel too constricting. Hopefully the one you`re looking at is the same cut. Oh, I`m pretty small, BTW: 5`7, 140#. I did see a few lighter rectangle bags. Here`s a Kelty with some kind of synthetic filling that I hadn`t heard of, rated at 40 F:
https://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...cchart_slp_bgs
Kelty also offers down rectangular bags rated for 35 F, but I decided the extra price (still under your limit, I think) wasn`t quite worth the difference for me. The one you linked to looks pretty good- wonder how I missed it.
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Old 08-10-08 | 11:11 PM
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I am dubious about those specs. For a synthetic fill bag to pack that small and weigh 2lb 4oz is very surprising. I haven't worked outdoor retail in about 5 years but have kept up with things somewhat and in my experience nothing comes close to warmth and compressibility for the weight of down. Check the ultralight bags from REI, GoLite, and Montbell.
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Old 08-11-08 | 06:46 AM
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western mountain megalite....

but yeah, an ultralite down bag from WM, Marmot, REI, Montbell is the ticket for 'small packing' sleeping bags. think the size of a grapefruit.
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Old 08-11-08 | 12:35 PM
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The Helsport Lom is a god bag. If bags get lighter and smaller than this i get problems to move my body inside the bag.

I have used my Lom for 7 years soon, iam very satisfied. Company that make them is from Norway. www.helsport.no

I dont know where you can find it on the internet. But i dont belive they have them in the US so you probably must order it from Germany or Norway and that would maybe be expensive for you.

Its a lightweight 3 season bag and tempratures is in Celsius

https://www.helsport.com/helsport/Ent...objectid=10178
 
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Look at stuff sacks for your sleep bag first.
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I stuff my older North Face Blue Kazoo down bag (20 degree rated) into a XS compression stuff sack (Granite Gear, I think). It compresses down to the size of a loaf of bread. Then it goes into a lightweight dry sack. A silk liner added to it makes it warmer. I used the combo on a March backpack trip in Utah where it got down to 30F at night.
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Check out https://www.featheredfriends.com/Pica...Specialty.html. I really like the Winter Wren. The drawstring bottom makes it super-functional, as do the arm zippers. It is also super-light and they do custom sizes for guys built like me. It is a bit pricy, but not when you consider the quality of the product.
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Old 08-11-08 | 10:25 PM
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Thanks all for the replies and suggested bags; I'll study those linked. Another I found that has an advertised small compression size (8x6 inches) is the Big Agnes Fish Hawk:

https://www.backcountry.com/store/BAG...gree-Down.html

For those of you with compression bags and down sleeping bags, do you find that you compress your sleeping bag down to small sizes like the two I quote (8x6 and 7x7 inches)?
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I have found the silnylon roll top bags by Sea to Summit or OR to be excellent. I am able to compress out nearly all the air out of the bag for a very small size. I would recommend if you can to bring you bag into a store with a wide selection of sizes and see which size works for your bag.
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The only true 30 degree bags that will stuff small are down bags. Kelty makes a couple for around 120 bucks that look nice. THe cheap quallofill bags that stuff to small sizes are usually overrated for temp. And are really 40-50 degree bags. A real 30 degree quallofill bag can stuff down to about 8 x 16 inches. Or maybe a bit smaller if you really compress it hard. However a good 20 degree down bag can stuff down the the size of a loaf of bread. Maybe 6 x 10 inches or less.

From my experience the really cheap bags temp ratings can only be assumed if you are wearing pants, long johns and a coat inside the bag. If you only have minimal clothing on inside the bag raise the temp rating by 20 degrees. The better bags usually have a somewhat more accurate temp rating.

You might check out something like this:

https://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/...0&CS_010=43124

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I can compress both my 45 deg and 30 deg down bags to about the size of a large grapefruit or medium cantalope.
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Old 08-11-08 | 11:42 PM
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The Mountain Hardware Phantom 32 is what I use for lightweight trips - 1.5 lbs, 800 down fill, packs to a football size. it's about $250 but can be bought at REI with the spring sale coupons for around $200.
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I love my Ferrino High Lab Micro for warm weather. I've used it for AT thru and sections hike and bike touring. <2 lbs and packs the size of a cantaloupe.

https://www.trailspace.com/gear/ferrino/h.l.-micro/
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Down bags in the PNW? I'm looking for a bag for late spring through early fall riding, when there's a decent chance of rain.
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down bags in the pacific northwest year round, often times no tent, just a tarp.

no problems. just don't take down sea kayaking...
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Originally Posted by FlowerBlossom
Down bags in the PNW?
I've used nothing but down for decades, including here in the Pacific Northwet. My lighter bag is an REI Sub-kilo, which compresses nicely and serves well for all but snow camping. I use a 1970s REI -20F down bag for winter.
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"no problems. just don't take down sea kayaking..."

Originally Posted by Mark Turner
I've used nothing but down for decades, including here in the Pacific Northwet. My lighter bag is an REI Sub-kilo, which compresses nicely and serves well for all but snow camping. I use a 1970s REI -20F down bag for winter.
I've used down many times on sea kayak trips. I put it in a dry bag, no problem.
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Anyone used/using a military surplus down mummy?

If so, how small do they compress?
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don't do military 'down'.
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Originally Posted by oldride
I've used down many times on sea kayak trips. I put it in a dry bag, no problem.
+1. Pretty much any piece of gear that goes into a kayak needs to be in a dry bag anyhow.

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Anyone used/using a military surplus down mummy?
I've looked into using a military surplus synthetic bag on top of my lighter down bag. I think I'm going to buy one of Carinthia's military models new after all.

Regarding packing size, all the military synthetic models I've looked into are big, stuffed or not. A similar down bag would obviously be smaller and lighter than synthetic, but my general impression was they are not particularly interested in optimising size/weight. For my intended use (winter bag) it doesn't matter so much, but YMMV.

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Originally Posted by Juha
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I've looked into using a military surplus synthetic bag on top of my lighter down bag. I think I'm going to buy one of Carinthia's military models new after all.

Regarding packing size, all the military synthetic models I've looked into are big, stuffed or not. A similar down bag would obviously be smaller and lighter than synthetic, but my general impression was they are not particularly interested in optimising size/weight. For my intended use (winter bag) it doesn't matter so much, but YMMV.--J
A local Government surplus seller has 20 below down mummies for $25, and 20 degree mummies for $50 in as new condition. The 20 below are less expensive due to having a huge amount of them.

I'm thinking at that price, it's hard to go wrong. If it won't compress or is heavy, I could always use it for weekend camping.
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