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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst However it depends on whether or not he actually fakes anything. So far he's just hitched a ride to phoenix, which he admitted, so we'll see where he goes from here. |
Originally Posted by staehpj1
(Post 8002705)
I don't remember that. Did he say that here?
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Originally Posted by PlatyPius
(Post 8002707)
I just have an over-active fairness gene.
And I lack that part of the brain that delays my fingers from typing what I'm thinking at that moment. :p That will change the thread. Thanks |
Originally Posted by The Historian
(Post 8002604)
Ryan's website states he's riding a bicycle from LA to DC - have you read it? Do you recall a fellow who was adamant that Neils on Wheels had to ride from downtown Pittsburgh in May because starting in McKeesport at the trail head was misrepresentation? By your own standards, Ryan's misrepresented himself - Phoenix is a heck of a lot further from LA than McKeesport is from Pittsburgh.
http://www.bikingforobama.com/2008/1...in-the-desert/: I came across an ultimatum over the weekend. I had to make a decision of whether or not to drive part-way on the trip and I was very conflicted. My support car had to return to Los Angeles, and I was unprepared yet to go through the desert alone. |
Originally Posted by PlatyPius
(Post 8002663)
I do. I'd like to ride across the country on my bike. Send me some money.
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Originally Posted by neilfein
(Post 8002795)
That was months ago, and he's obviously learned from that.
http://www.bikingforobama.com/2008/1...in-the-desert/: "3159 miles from Los Angeles to St. Augustine, FL, and 750 miles up the Atlantic Coast to Washington DC." If the webmaster can post left wing videos, why can't he change (there's that word again!) other material on the website? |
Originally Posted by PlatyPius
(Post 8002594)
Ya know, the more I've been thinking about Ryan and his priorities on this trip, the more pissed I've gotten. As an Obama supporter, I had to hear all of the crap during the campaign about him being an elitist and how all of the poor people will get free money, feel entitled, etc.
Ryan is the epitome of someone who feels he is entitled to something. He's the quintessential elitist. He decides he's going to ride his bike across the US. He decides that everyone else should pay for it. He wants a camera to document the journey, so he begs for a $4500 camera. IF I were in the position of begging for donations to ride a bike across the country, I would set my standards a little lower. Like, the $100 cameras from Wal-Mart, or a used version. He has (allegedly) embarked on a 4000 mile journey with a bike and a rack-top bag. No panniers, no sleeping bag, no tent.... do any of his brain cells actually communicate with each other? I am just completely dumbfounded by his lack of planning, lack of judgment, and lack of humility. The anger I feel that someone such as Ryan is "representing" Obama is beyond words. I'm also getting tired of all of the subtle and not-so-subtle attempts to censor on the two Ryan threads. We've been told me must not be "naysayers". Why not? The naysayers were right. We've been told we shouldn't say anything when Ryan fails. Why not? This has been very instructive for learning how not to do a bike tour. And now these ridiculous "stop the hate'" posts. Again I ask, what 'hate'? A better question is why were so many people saying "Go for it!" when Ryan was proposing something that was obviously unworkable. He had too little time, lacked the proper equipment, lacked sufficient funds, lacked experience, had unsuitable weather, insufficient daylight, and on and on. |
Originally Posted by axolotl
(Post 8002837)
While I don't have quite the anger you feel, I agree with most of your points, PlatyPius. The sense of entitlement that Ryan has displayed is appalling. His inability to plan is amazing. His comments about "welfare queens" and "whiteness" were outrageous. If Barack Obama had been as disorganized and arrogant as Ryan, he would never have gotten beyond the Iowa caucuses.
I'm also getting tired of all of the subtle and not-so-subtle attempts to censor on the two Ryan threads. We've been told me must not be "naysayers". Why not? The naysayers were right. We've been told we shouldn't say anything when Ryan fails. Why not? This has been very instructive for learning how not to do a bike tour. And now these ridiculous "stop the hate'" posts. Again I ask, what 'hate'? A better question is why were so many people saying "Go for it!" when Ryan was proposing something that was obviously unworkable. He had too little time, lacked the proper equipment, lacked sufficient funds, lacked experience, had unsuitable weather, insufficient daylight, and on and on. |
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
(Post 8002858)
Some of The Best Parts of my 66 years, have been when I went All Out Go For it.
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Originally Posted by The Historian
(Post 8002889)
Yes, but somehow I doubt you called folks racial slurs if they criticized you. :p
I could care less about, Obama, DC. Chances are great he will fail. But he got farther then you or I. But he at least Started. Here is the way to get money for a bike trip. |
Originally Posted by PlatyPius
(Post 8002594)
... the quintessential elitist.
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Originally Posted by axolotl
(Post 8002837)
A better question is why were so many people saying "Go for it!" when Ryan was proposing something that was obviously unworkable. He had too little time, lacked the proper equipment, lacked sufficient funds, lacked experience, had unsuitable weather, insufficient daylight, and on and on.
When Ryan first introduced himself and his grand quest, there was enough time. This being the touring forum, I assumed he knew enough about touring to either have the necessary equipment or at least know what it was. Riding to the inauguration was not, at that time, impossible. If Ryan had stopped by my house that day, I could have lent him nearly everything I thought he needed; and after hanging out with him for a little while, I might well have done so. As for the things he thought he needed, well, I have already addressed that. Had I known then what I know now, I might have responded differently. Indeed, if things were different, things would be different. |
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
(Post 8002917)
Somewhere a 22 y/o bike rider is trying to take the the bike ride of His Dreams.
I could care less about, Obama, DC. Chances are great he will fail. But he got farther then you or I. But he at least Started. Please don't insult me by comparing me to this kid. I'm a doer. * That said, I did accept lodging from Spinnaker on the first night. |
Originally Posted by axolotl
(Post 8002837)
A better question is why were so many people saying "Go for it!" when Ryan was proposing something that was obviously unworkable. He had too little time, lacked the proper equipment, lacked sufficient funds, lacked experience, had unsuitable weather, insufficient daylight, and on and on.
We didn't and still don't know his financial status (not that we should). Others have started off with little or no experience and succeeded. Remember RobbyKills, the guy who wanted to carry a machete for protection and did a full coast to coast trip picking his route as he went. He had a very successful trip. I think Ryan had more lead time than we did when we did out TA. We did own camping gear and had a wealth of outdoor and camping experience, but others have succeeded without any. It really doesn't take much planning, but leaving on a xc tour where you will need to camp without having panniers, sleeping bag, and tent lined up is a recipe for failure. He could have spent some of the time and money devoted to web development on that. Even buying new, it is possible to find a serviceable tent, sleeping pad and bag, and panniers for $300 or so. It wasn't/isn't all that unreasonable of a goal. It is definitely possible. |
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
(Post 8002769)
Post a pic of your Hot Wife.
That will change the thread. Thanks http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...Picture345.jpg |
Originally Posted by PlatyPius
(Post 8002663)
I do. I'd like to ride across the country on my bike. Send me some money.
I would, by *I'm* raising money to buy a seat in the U.S. Senate. I'll let you know how it goes. |
Originally Posted by BengeBoy
(Post 8003298)
:lol:
I would, by *I'm* raising money to buy a seat in the U.S. Senate. I'll let you know how it goes. |
Originally Posted by PlatyPius
(Post 8003099)
Who cares about Ryan now? I don't. |
Originally Posted by PlatyPius
(Post 8003099)
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
(Post 8002769)
Post a pic of your Hot Wife.
That will change the thread. Thanks (edited out, but very cute!)
Originally Posted by BengeBoy
(Post 8003298)
Originally Posted by PlatyPius
(Post 8002663)
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
(Post 8002616)
WOW! You need a vacation.
I would, by *I'm* raising money to buy a seat in the U.S. Senate. I'll let you know how it goes. You know what Ryan's quest reminded me of? When I was in college a buddy and I cooked up a crazy scheme to cycle across the country and have the whole thing subsidized by a certain fast food chain. We figured, make a map that shows all their locations, and pick a route that connected the maximum number of the dots, and eat nothing but their food --free, of course-- all the way across the country. This was 20 years before the words "supersize me!" meant anything. We never even got as far as proposing it to the company, and I'm glad... but what a long, strange trip it would have been! |
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
(Post 8003353)
Not Only Hot Hot, but Cute Cute.
Who cares about Ryan now? I don't. (She isn't as young as she looks, btw. [35] I've been accused to trying to pass off my daughter as my wife a few times - I don't have a daughter. I guess it's more noticeable because I'm 40, fat, and grey. :p ) |
Originally Posted by rhm
(Post 8003407)
Oh, I'm so glad this thread is starting to make sense again!
You know what Ryan's quest reminded me of? When I was in college a buddy and I cooked up a crazy scheme to cycle across the country and have the whole thing subsidized by a certain fast food chain. We figured, make a map that shows all their locations, and pick a route that connected the maximum number of the dots, and eat nothing but their food --free, of course-- all the way across the country. This was 20 years before the words "supersize me!" meant anything. We never even got as far as proposing it to the company, and I'm glad... but what a long, strange trip it would have been! |
Originally Posted by rhm
(Post 8003407)
You know what Ryan's quest reminded me of? When I was in college a buddy and I cooked up a crazy scheme to cycle across the country and have the whole thing subsidized by a certain fast food chain. We figured, make a map that shows all their locations, and pick a route that connected the maximum number of the dots, and eat nothing but their food --free, of course-- all the way across the country.
http://www.bikingbis.com/blog/_archi...0/3282859.html |
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
(Post 8003441)
You missed a Great Bike Ride.
Hmmm........ |
Originally Posted by BengeBoy
(Post 8003446)
Your idea was stolen - you should demand royalties.
http://www.bikingbis.com/blog/_archi...0/3282859.html
Originally Posted by PlatyPius
(Post 8003453)
Someone should do that with Subway.
Hmmm........ Maybe it's not such a crazy idea after all... it'd be like a 4000 mile pub crawl, but without the beer. Anyone want to join me for, say, next summer? |
Originally Posted by BengeBoy
(Post 8003446)
Your idea was stolen - you should demand royalties.
http://www.bikingbis.com/blog/_archi...0/3282859.html |
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