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Old 05-08-09 | 05:14 PM
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I didn't read all of the posts, and I don't know how you will be returning, but Southwest doesn't allow used liquid fuel stoves in carry-on or checked baggage. Cleaned stoves are okay with the TSA, so it probably varies from airline to airline. Something to consider.

From Southwest web site:
Flammable Liquid Fueled Equipment (white fuel, gasoline, diesel, etc.) : Camp stoves, heaters, lanterns or other flammable liquid fuel camp equipment will not be accepted as checked or carryon baggage unless the equipment is brand new, unused and still in the manufacturer’s package. We will not accept the flammable liquid fuel equipment if there is any evidence that the equipment has been used.

Flammable Gas Fueled Equipment (propane/butane) : Camp Stoves, heaters, lanterns, or other camping equipment that uses compressed gas cylinders will be conditionally accepted as checked or carryon baggage. The stove burner and/or lantern filament may be carried, as long as there is no fuel cylinder. The fuel cylinders themselves must be removed and are prohibited in checked and carryon baggage, whether they are empty or full.


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Old 05-08-09 | 07:20 PM
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i use 1981 coleman peak 1 or their current same (1994). dual fuel, or multi-fuel back pack stoves are the way to go!
my 1981 coleman peak 1 white gas stove still works. i have seen simular peak 1 stoves accept unleaded gasoline fine, have dual fuels now but choose to use white gas.
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Old 05-08-09 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Litespeed51
I didn't read all of the posts, and I don't know how you will be returning, but Southwest doesn't allow used liquid fuel stoves in carry-on or checked baggage. Cleaned stoves are okay with the TSA, so it probably varies from airline to airline. Something to consider.

From Southwest web site:
Flammable Liquid Fueled Equipment (white fuel, gasoline, diesel, etc.) : Camp stoves, heaters, lanterns or other flammable liquid fuel camp equipment will not be accepted as checked or carryon baggage unless the equipment is brand new, unused and still in the manufacturer’s package. We will not accept the flammable liquid fuel equipment if there is any evidence that the equipment has been used.

Flammable Gas Fueled Equipment (propane/butane) : Camp Stoves, heaters, lanterns, or other camping equipment that uses compressed gas cylinders will be conditionally accepted as checked or carryon baggage. The stove burner and/or lantern filament may be carried, as long as there is no fuel cylinder. The fuel cylinders themselves must be removed and are prohibited in checked and carryon baggage, whether they are empty or full.


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Most airlines are a little more reasonable than that, they'll let you take your stove as long as it has been cleaned out and doesn't smell of fuel. There's always a danger, though, that you'll run into an overly zealous airline employee who won't let you bring your stove no matter how clean and free of fuel it is. Check the airline website, print off the relevant regs, and have a copy with you when you check in.
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Old 05-10-09 | 10:16 AM
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Did you use the directions that tell you to use the goofy shaped Heineken cans? I want to try one of those, but can't find the cans in the right size anywhere.
Yep, I looked at 4 different stores before finding a 12 pack of Heineken cans at Target off McKee Rd. If you still haven't found any, PM me and I'll give you some empty cans.
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Old 05-10-09 | 10:55 AM
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I use this folding stove. It can use any canned fuel, like Magic Fuel, couglans, or even sterno. Simple and reliable, and i've even used twigs, and other junk as well. It's also very cheap to buy.

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Old 05-13-09 | 03:38 PM
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Does anybody use gasoline in their MSR Whisperlite? I checked around and I cannot find anything from MSR indicating gasoline is a proper fuel for this stove.
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Old 05-13-09 | 03:46 PM
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The Whisperlite Internationale burns unleaded gasoline. The old Whisperlite does not.
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Old 05-13-09 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RepWI
Does anybody use gasoline in their MSR Whisperlite? I checked around and I cannot find anything from MSR indicating gasoline is a proper fuel for this stove.
I have a different MSR stove and have run unleaded in it................. wouldn't want to do it very often though. Soot is bad. Best to run good old white gas.
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Old 05-13-09 | 04:30 PM
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I do have the Internationale. Therefore maybe I will start my tours with White gas and feel free to use unleaded when I run out and have no access to small quantities of White gas.

TY for the responses.
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Old 05-14-09 | 12:51 AM
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-The Primus has the ability to change from liquid fuel (gas, av fuel, diesel, kerosene) to LP canisters, making it very versatile. DukeArcher, do you know if you must use Primus LP canisters or can you use those made by other companies?
-Noise of operation. The Dragonfly is loud. I am an early riser. I need my tea first thing in the morning. In close quarters camping, which happens quite frequently, I have to hike to a far-away spot to boil water. Has anyone used both the Primus Omnifuel and Dragonfly to compare the noise produced by the two?
Los (may I call you Los? LOL), We just bought the primus.
it accepts all canisters, EXCEPT campinggaz canisters (they have a internal threads, whereas the other system has external threads, there may possibly be a converter???)
Noise: We have yet to cook on the primus on the same fuel we used to cook on with our msr xg-k (kerosene), but even on lp gas it's LOUD when you open the throttle(s) full.
but when you're not in a hurry it's only slightly louder then a 'normal' lp gas burner (but still louder)
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Originally Posted by RepWI
Does anybody use gasoline in their MSR Whisperlite? I checked around and I cannot find anything from MSR indicating gasoline is a proper fuel for this stove.
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The Whisperlite Internationale burns unleaded gasoline. The old Whisperlite does not.
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I have a different MSR stove and have run unleaded in it................. wouldn't want to do it very often though. Soot is bad. Best to run good old white gas.
There are/were two different versions of the Whisperlite. The Whisperlite and the Whisperlite International, they still sell both models.

Unleaded and Kerosene soot up stuff very quickly and require a thorough cleaning of the stove more often than with white gas.

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Old 05-14-09 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wahoonc
There are/were two different versions of the Whisperlite. The Whisperlite and the Whisperlite International, they still sell both models.

Unleaded and Kerosene soot up stuff very quickly and require a thorough cleaning of the stove more often than with white gas.

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Mine is the big daddy MSR XGK. Will run on just about anything except water
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Mine is the big daddy MSR XGK. Will run on just about anything except water
I have seen those run on JP4 on a survival trip...interesting and keep your distance I looked at one of those and went with the Whisperlite Intl. Now I want a Simmerlite to add to the collection

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I have seen those run on JP4 on a survival trip...interesting and keep your distance I looked at one of those and went with the Whisperlite Intl. Now I want a Simmerlite to add to the collection

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I do plan on picking up a simmerlite white gas version pretty soon. I have the simmerlite cannister version and like it very much. Works with the trillium base which is nice since I have one for the big stove.

I've been using MSR stoves for ever and they have always treated me well. The big stove is great for melting snow and boiling water when mountaineering....... not so great for touring.
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Old 05-14-09 | 09:35 PM
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msr dragon fly. a little heavier, simmers like a dream. though on my recent China tour I bought a cheap isobutane stove because I could not find white gas, and did not want to burn kerosene diesel or gasoline in the . dont like the smell.

i only used the isobutane stove for coffee in the morning. villages are close together in most places in Yunnan, always ate in a village at noodle shops or small restaurants (about 60 cents US for a bowl of mi xian noodles) though I carried emergency rations and one small titanium pot. I thought I might need to boil water for drinking if I could not find bottled water - that was never and issue. Lots of bottled water here.
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Proprietary fuel cannisters... no way. I did a lot of reading when I was looking for stove. I decided on the SVEA 123, which is now owned by Optimus. Time after time I read people saying "my SVEA 123 has been going strong for decades." I love it and as much of a "ooooh ooooh look at that" I do when looking at certain things, like new camp stoves, I will not replace my SVEA until I have to.

It does great in high altitudes, it is a bit quirky in priming, it's heavier than a lot of the newer stoves, it has character, it is bombproof, and even though it prefers white gas (Coleman fuel) it can use most anything if it comes down to it.



I also read a blog the other day and came across the Kelly Kettle. It uses twigs, paper, whatever is handy. It seems it is mostly designed for boiling water with light cooking abilities. I do believe I am gonna snatch one up and use it for short trips where hot water will handle my cooking needs; noodles, oatmeal, etc. From reading up on it, I do believe you can cook a bit more than just light cooking, but I do believe you need to keep adding water and fuel.

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Proprietary fuel cannisters... no way. I did a lot of reading when I was looking for stove. I decided on the SVEA 123, which is now owned by Optimus. Time after time I read people saying "my SVEA 123 has been going strong for decades." I love it and as much of a "ooooh ooooh look at that" I do when looking at certain things, like new camp stoves, I will not replace my SVEA until I have to.

It does great in high altitudes, it is a bit quirky in priming, it's heavier than a lot of the newer stoves, it has character, it is bombproof, and even though it prefers white gas (Coleman fuel) it can use most anything if it comes down to it.

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I also read a blog the other day and came across the Kelly Kettle. It uses twigs, paper, whatever is handy. It seems it is mostly designed for boiling water with light cooking abilities. I do believe I am gonna snatch one up and use it for short trips where hot water will handle my cooking needs; noodles, oatmeal, etc. From reading up on it, I do believe you can cook a bit more than just light cooking, but I do believe you need to keep adding water and fuel.
I have both of those...my Svea dates back to around 1973 and is still chugging along. I also have one of the small/medium sized Kelly Kettles that I use for my rambles on my three speed.

I have a sizable collection of stove, lanterns and camping equipment, I think it breeds in dark storage.

Another stove I use regularly for emergency and car camping is the Coleman Sportster I have one of these in my truck emergency box. They are relatively cheap and easy to get fuel for anywhere, not for weight weenies!

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