Cooking out on the tour, not for the sane...
#26
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There are more ways to heat a DO than just coals. I have an older version of the stove ACA has on their site, Digging a shallow hole under the pot (with legs) I can get the burners fully under the pot. If making stews and such not alot of top heat is needed. Sure the coals would be traditional and defenatly taste better but you have to go with what you got.
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No need for a Dutch oven on tour ......... although I must say we successfully used a Dutch oven in our fireplace as our only oven for a year from June 2009 to June 2010, when we lived in a very rustic cabin in the Australian bush after the bushfire here. I baked cakes, pies, pizza, and all sorts in it. (Fireplace Cuisine photo set: https://www.flickr.com/photos/1430288...7621039458509/ )
Rowan uses a pair of Trangias on our tours, and cooks up a wide variety of delicious meals. We eat well on tour!!
Rowan uses a pair of Trangias on our tours, and cooks up a wide variety of delicious meals. We eat well on tour!!

#28
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A useful alternative to a dutch oven is a good roll of heavy duty foil and a fry pan. Use the pan to brown anything, then wrap the whole meal in a couple layers of foil and place in fry pan, bury it in the coals. I've often done this without the fry pan for roasted veggies or fish dishes that I would have done in the DO back home.
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Haven't yet done much bike tour cooking, yet. . . but having cooked two meals/day for approximately 400 days on long backpacking trips, believe me that you don't need a dutch oven to prepare delicious, even gourmet meals. Total weight of all cooking equipment, not counting fuel, should be between 2 and 3 pounds, max. One of those pounds should be a small multi-fuel stove. Multi-fuel because you might find a quart of paint thinner easier to come by than white gas. Do not, not, not plan on cooking over a fire. You want a stop riding-bed time of less than 2 hours, and similar in the morning. You can camp tour in luxury on your bike with 20 pounds, including rack, panniers, bags, spare clothes, tools, tubes, pump, etc. Then you'll have lots of time and energy to enjoy the touring part.
Edit: someone mentioned a steel pot. Aluminum only. No steel, stainless steel, or titanium. Camp cooking is all about heat conductivity.
Edit: someone mentioned a steel pot. Aluminum only. No steel, stainless steel, or titanium. Camp cooking is all about heat conductivity.
#30
That's awesome. I would love to spend a year in a cabin in the backcountry...then again I sort of grew up like that and the romanticism does trade off with the being many hours from a hospital, having to make a whole day out of getting your mail and grocery shopping, stuff like that, but the nostalgia is strong.
Even baking was a challenge ... there wasn't enough electricity for mixers, etc., so it was all done by hand, and we didn't have an oven, so it was all baked in the Dutch oven in the fireplace. Just like, I suppose, the "good ol' days".
I learned a lot about baking in a fireplace!!While I was baking in the fireplace, Rowan cooked most of our meals on a two-burner Coleman stove ... much like he would do with his Trangias. In fact, he travelled and worked a part of the Harvest Trail for a year or so back in 2005 living in a tent and cooking with his Trangias, so he had a lot of experience with that. It's amazing what you can cook without a traditional stove/oven!!
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#31
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I've never been accussed of being sane
I've alwasy tended to do things the hard way just to see what happens. I hunt with traditional muzzleloaders or handguns, Shave with a straight razor, make my own condements for and such. I've been told I fell off the bell curve as a child and never bothered to try getting back on it.
Everyone has brought up sound points about having a DO on the tour, and all I can think of is getting out there and using it
Heck I almost bought another one today but my wife had one of thos looks in her eyes that suggested I rethink buying another one today
I've alwasy tended to do things the hard way just to see what happens. I hunt with traditional muzzleloaders or handguns, Shave with a straight razor, make my own condements for and such. I've been told I fell off the bell curve as a child and never bothered to try getting back on it. Everyone has brought up sound points about having a DO on the tour, and all I can think of is getting out there and using it
Heck I almost bought another one today but my wife had one of thos looks in her eyes that suggested I rethink buying another one today
#32
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[QUOTE=Machka;11307785]The romanticism started to wear thin somewhere around the 6 month point. [QUOTE]
Ha ha yeah I bet it did. I think three months is about the cut off for me before it would wear thin
Ha ha yeah I bet it did. I think three months is about the cut off for me before it would wear thin
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To me bringing a Dutch oven is insane! But to you it might make sense, especially if you're pulling a trailer. I say give it a try - but maybe on a short trip. You'll be able to decide for yourself whether it was a good idea.
I've started bringing a chair, and to me it's worth it. You might think it crazy.
I've started bringing a chair, and to me it's worth it. You might think it crazy.
#34
Here is the thing that comes to my mind on this issue. For the same 6 pounds you could probably carry two (or maybe even three) cartridge stoves with a fuel canister for each along with a couple pots with lids, a reasonable saute pan, a lightweight reflector oven, a 9"x9" pan for the reflector oven, and some other stuff of your choice. You could prepare some pretty elaborate meals with a setup like that.
BTW, here is one example of a 9 ounce reflector oven. I have one that weighs a bit more but is able to handle larger pans. I have fixed some really yummy baked stuff on canoe trips, but like to keep it light and simple on bike trips so it stays home.
All that said, I'll stick with a single light weight pot with a frypan lid.
BTW, here is one example of a 9 ounce reflector oven. I have one that weighs a bit more but is able to handle larger pans. I have fixed some really yummy baked stuff on canoe trips, but like to keep it light and simple on bike trips so it stays home.
All that said, I'll stick with a single light weight pot with a frypan lid.
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On a trip around Death Vally we had the early reflecter type ovens, Big hotdog oven as well. First three days it was over cast and they didn't work for squat, then they got crushed and we never got them working again... Just that one bad experience has kept me away from flimsy cookware. My friends love em and take them all over the place, but I will never trust them again. I'll try my bricks and go from there haha. I'm sure I'll come across a cooking system I like and is less punishing in the future, till than I'll wear my dunce cap and play
Being ex Army Infantry I tend to push my equipment to the breaking point so I KNOW when it will fail, lots of times it's me that fails lol, but I get up and try again with a slightly different slant on the problem...
I love the chair idea
Being ex Army Infantry I tend to push my equipment to the breaking point so I KNOW when it will fail, lots of times it's me that fails lol, but I get up and try again with a slightly different slant on the problem...I love the chair idea
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I've toured with a variety of shelters and cooking solutions
wood burning stove, 4 man tipi
I've also been fixated on using a tagine
perhaps a Ti Tagine?
wood burning stove, 4 man tipi
I've also been fixated on using a tagine
perhaps a Ti Tagine?
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#38
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These do work really well, been around a really long time. Fold up small too if you get one designed to
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Correct, I was thinking of Solar ovens, I haven't come across what you have pictured there, have to keep an eye out for those 
Tagine sound familier, that the clay ovens?

Tagine sound familier, that the clay ovens?
#40
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Ah the civilain model of the Yukon Stove, minus the "Mo Gas" drip line
Looks like it folds up? How does it hand warping? Nice shot of the cherry door






