Pictures of your loaded rigs?
#4701
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Joined: Sep 2018
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From: Ex-pat American living in Thailand
Bikes: Surly LHT, & Merida Matts 40 MTB
A friend of mine from Cambridge, UK pulled up stakes and moved to Thailand 5 or so years ago. He does a lot of brevets (think thats the correct term) and cycles all over SE Asia. Before he moved there permanently, he flew from the UK to Hanoi, bought a cheap Schwinn bike on the street, fixed some panniers to it somehow (wasn't a touring bike per se) and rode to Malaysia, solo. Geoff Jones (late 60's now) if you ever run across a Brit on some quiet backroad... He loves it there and I doubt he's ever move back.
#4704
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From: Montreal Canada
Ah, I thought your "meh" was about the tandem experience, but I guess you always have the "meh"
I was out today remarking on how much a difference it made going from 5 to 4.5 psi on my four inchers. Always takes a bit of adjustment adapting to how much squish one can get away with, especially as I was out on the fattie not that long ago with no snow but hard frozen earth, so a lot more pressure needed with the speed.
I was out today remarking on how much a difference it made going from 5 to 4.5 psi on my four inchers. Always takes a bit of adjustment adapting to how much squish one can get away with, especially as I was out on the fattie not that long ago with no snow but hard frozen earth, so a lot more pressure needed with the speed.
#4709
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From: Montreal Canada
but 14 litres, ooof, thats 14kgs or 30 bloody pounds, talk about making your bike as heavy feeling as the Titanic.
but I get it, not having enough water and food, but especially water, is no fun, and geez, nearly 275 kms until the next supply spot, thats a good long way.
are you there now?
#4710
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Joined: Mar 2010
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From: Scotland
Bikes: Surly LHT, Surly Pacer, Spa Steel Tourer, Kona Kula
The handling was actually fine. The weight was well spread. Two low down in each front pannier, 3.5 in frame bottles, and 7 split between the rear panniers. Even going uphill I can't say it was a huge difference. I'm about 220 pounds depending how long I've been on tour. Call it 30 for the bike and 30 base weight for camping gear. A bit of food. So roughly 10% more weight with the fluids on board. of course not every bike could do it but my LHT was rock solid.
There was nothing between the two towns. Hence why most people biking across NV go Route 50. At the end of the day it's the USA. Get stuck and flag a car down. There was a dozen cars an hour or something like that.
There was nothing between the two towns. Hence why most people biking across NV go Route 50. At the end of the day it's the USA. Get stuck and flag a car down. There was a dozen cars an hour or something like that.
#4711
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From: Montreal Canada
Ya, my troll was generally well behaved also with a good load. As you say, distributing it around and low makes a big difference. I'm a lot lighter than you, so tend to notice extra weight, but then there's the factor of getting more and more touring fit, so extra weight doesn't affect as much when we are stronger.
On the central america trip, I did carry more spares and stuff, so a bit heavier than usual due to spare tire etc etc, but I have the bike set up with good low gearing--which I'm sure will be handy with steep stuff in Scotland.
Here's the lump by the way
On the central america trip, I did carry more spares and stuff, so a bit heavier than usual due to spare tire etc etc, but I have the bike set up with good low gearing--which I'm sure will be handy with steep stuff in Scotland.
Here's the lump by the way
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#4712
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Bikes: Some silver ones, a red one, a black and orange one, and a few titanium ones
Don’t! Rock that grime! A dirty bike is a happy bike. As was said of Pig Pen “Don't think of it as dust. Think of it as maybe the soil of some great past civilization. Maybe the soil of ancient Babylon. It staggers the imagination. [It] may be [the] soil that was trod upon by Solomon, or even Nebuchudnezzar.”
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Stuart Black
Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
#4713
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From: Denver, CO
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Ya, my troll was generally well behaved also with a good load. As you say, distributing it around and low makes a big difference. I'm a lot lighter than you, so tend to notice extra weight, but then there's the factor of getting more and more touring fit, so extra weight doesn't affect as much when we are stronger.
On the central america trip, I did carry more spares and stuff, so a bit heavier than usual due to spare tire etc etc, but I have the bike set up with good low gearing--which I'm sure will be handy with steep stuff in Scotland.
Here's the lump by the way
On the central america trip, I did carry more spares and stuff, so a bit heavier than usual due to spare tire etc etc, but I have the bike set up with good low gearing--which I'm sure will be handy with steep stuff in Scotland.
Here's the lump by the way

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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Stuart Black
Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
#4714
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From: Montreal Canada
Funny, and yup, I had the rear only orange ones because I liked the bright colour for safety, but already had the grey front ones were newer and the lighter Plus versions, so didnt buy orange front ones, and then I got the rackpack yellow bag used years and years ago, so yellow it was!
so a hodge podge, but nope, I don't particularly care, egads, and I have a fine arts degree to boot!
#4715
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Bikes: Rivendell Quickbeam, Rivendell Rambouillet, Rivendell Atlantis, Circle A town bike, De Rosa Neo Primato, Cervelo RS, Specialized Diverge
Out on a shake down ride with a new Nelson Longflap saddlebag and sturdy 32 spoke HED Belgium plus wheels with White Industries Hubs on a Specialized Diverge with the 105, 11 speed groupset. My aging back means that I will be using hotels when possible, but I'm still carrying a cook set, Tarptent Protrail, Montbell Downhugger sleeping bag and a Thermorest NeoAir for emergencies and for areas where accommodation is sparse.
#4716
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Joined: Oct 2021
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From: Ocala, FL
Bikes: 1986 Trek 760, 1990 Trek 420, 2020 REI ADV 1.1, 2017 REI ADV 3.1, 1995 Trek 930 Singletrack, 2003 LeMond Arrivee
My 2020 REI Co-op ADV 1.1 during my most recent trip. Did the Natchez Trace Parkway in November, Nashville to Natchez then back to Nashville. Temperatures varied from low 40's to low 90's, but loved every minute of it.
#4717
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Joined: May 2009
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From: Reston Virginia
Bikes: Co-Op adv1.1, Cannondale Synapse 105 Carbon
Nice Bike
I too tour on an ADV1.1, and it's a great touring bike, especially for long heavy expeditions. I increased the reach, but not the stack, on mine by extending the stem 30mm and installing a setback seat post to get another 20 mm. Mine is an XL. The Natchez trace is awesome - rode it about 10 years ago. I just might ride it again. Stay Safe
#4720
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From: Spain
#4722
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From: Montreal Canada
#4724
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From: Prince Edward Island, Canada
Bikes: '23 Devinci Hatchet Carbon Apex1 '19 Norco Bigfoot 6.1 ,'12 Motobecane Turino (killed by dog crash), '12 Trek 3700 Disc
Fantastic trip !
jbz255 Just a question. Where did you find your fantastic water frame canister ?
Thanks in advance
jbz255 Just a question. Where did you find your fantastic water frame canister ?
Thanks in advance
#4725
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From: Ocala, FL
Bikes: 1986 Trek 760, 1990 Trek 420, 2020 REI ADV 1.1, 2017 REI ADV 3.1, 1995 Trek 930 Singletrack, 2003 LeMond Arrivee
Fantastic trip !
jbz255 Just a question. Where did you find your fantastic water frame canister ?
Thanks in advance
jbz255 Just a question. Where did you find your fantastic water frame canister ?
Thanks in advance




