Braking Technique during long descending on your full loaded bike
12-25-12, 04:07 AM
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True, I just put the video in for Christmas fun. Calore seems to be skilled at both front & rear foot braking. OTOH I once read a couple of articles about track-bike braking & emergency foot-braking. Supposedly trackies can hop the rear wheel off the ground & stop the rotation creating a rear skid braking. Also, IIRC, one can press the sole of shoe down on front tire in back of fork crown w/toes angled out to prevent wedging. There are other Calore no-hands videos where he's going really fast; he's even descended while "playing" an accordion:
https://www.giulianocalore.it/gallery.html
https://www.giulianocalore.it/gallery.html
12-25-12, 02:33 PM
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yes, but what is the flow rate of heat thru the leather sole of a 1986 racing shoe? Could it have been plastic? What sort of plastic and if so, would the melting point be significantly lower than cowhide, thus allowing this fellow to freely let his downtube equipped bike run longer before soley applying his one foot if it had natural materials? Would he have been better off alternating between forementioned right foot sole and left?
The questions this clip brings up leaves me oddly frustrated, yet also oddly getting a craving for some linguini, followed with a gelato and then an expresso.
The questions this clip brings up leaves me oddly frustrated, yet also oddly getting a craving for some linguini, followed with a gelato and then an expresso.
12-27-12, 10:18 AM
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<big sigh> Not everyone is like you. Timidity can arise for all sorts of reasons and you egging people on to take what they perceive as more risk is not going to help them.
I know of one person who has never been able to descend rapidly after a major crash at the bottom of a fast and ultimately slippery downhill at a junction with traffic.
You can denigrate all you like, but that person will ride the brakes no matter what. Significantly, however, the brakes, pads and rims are such that the effect isn't such that a problem will arise.
I know that I approach downhills with significantly more caution than before I crashed and had a bad dislocation of my shoulder on a benign but wet chip seal on the commute, aggravated by diesel splash from a bus.
Being aware of the consequences of riding the brakes down a hill is what this is all about. For mine, the people who choose to stop three times in a mile on a very steep hill with a heavily loaded bike, and don't melt the bead on their tyres and suffer a blowout, are doing just fine.
By the way. Have a great Christmas celebration and an excellent New Year.
I know of one person who has never been able to descend rapidly after a major crash at the bottom of a fast and ultimately slippery downhill at a junction with traffic.
You can denigrate all you like, but that person will ride the brakes no matter what. Significantly, however, the brakes, pads and rims are such that the effect isn't such that a problem will arise.
I know that I approach downhills with significantly more caution than before I crashed and had a bad dislocation of my shoulder on a benign but wet chip seal on the commute, aggravated by diesel splash from a bus.
Being aware of the consequences of riding the brakes down a hill is what this is all about. For mine, the people who choose to stop three times in a mile on a very steep hill with a heavily loaded bike, and don't melt the bead on their tyres and suffer a blowout, are doing just fine.
By the way. Have a great Christmas celebration and an excellent New Year.
I'm not saying that everyone should follow my lead and throw themselves down every hill with wild abandon. When caution is warranted, even I use caution. However, I am suggesting that you don't lock the brakes up at the top of every hill and 'erk, erk, erk' all the way to the bottom. That's what leads to all of the issues above. You can let the bike roll to just above some arbitrary speed set by your own comfort zone, then apply the brakes to bring the bike back down to your comfort zone and then get off the brakes. Repeat as much as needed. Stop as much as you like but I'm saying don't melt a set of pads or overheat your rims on a short section of downhill. If you melt pads on a 3 mile downhill, what happens if the hill is 6 miles long?
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Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
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Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
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