Begining tour. Item suggestions?
#26
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Guess I'm stating the obvious but:
Dove or Joy dishwashing liquid for soap (does everything)
and Avon Skin So Soft. Keeps the little biters away.
Little can compare to wool. Good wool is worth EVERY penny.
I spend a LOT of time in remote areas hunting and fishing.
I use one of my bikes specifically for the backwoods.
Dove or Joy dishwashing liquid for soap (does everything)
and Avon Skin So Soft. Keeps the little biters away.
Little can compare to wool. Good wool is worth EVERY penny.
I spend a LOT of time in remote areas hunting and fishing.
I use one of my bikes specifically for the backwoods.
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When I first started I didn't bring a tent. My rides were usually weekenders and I wouldn't go unless the weather report said no rain. However, even for weekends, I'd bring a tent now - to get away from bugs and for some privacy.
I don't bring a warm coat. I bring two poly-pro long underwear tops - one very lightweight and one medium weight. That gives me choices - one or the other or both. I bring a fleece vest - why bring sleeves if you don't need them. When it gets really cold I put them all one with a t-shirt underneath, and put my rain jacket on top. I'm warm enough under almost any conditions. If I'm still too cold I go to bed.
If you're a minimalist a small, one-man tent might be what you want. I bought a Eureka Backcountry 1 that was very light and excellent protection against rain and bugs. However, it was too confining and I instead went with a 2-person tent in which I can stretch out and have a little room around me for my stuff.
In those early days I didn't bring a stove (I didn't have one and was too poor to buy one.) I ate tuna fish out of the can, fruit, beef jerkey, and cooked canned food over a campfire - in the can. Now I carry a backpacking stove, a couple of pots, a plate, knife, fork, and spoon, and I'm much happier.
It's kind of like that - you deprive yourself to save weight, but you make choices to bring certain things to enhance your "quality of life."
I don't bring a warm coat. I bring two poly-pro long underwear tops - one very lightweight and one medium weight. That gives me choices - one or the other or both. I bring a fleece vest - why bring sleeves if you don't need them. When it gets really cold I put them all one with a t-shirt underneath, and put my rain jacket on top. I'm warm enough under almost any conditions. If I'm still too cold I go to bed.
If you're a minimalist a small, one-man tent might be what you want. I bought a Eureka Backcountry 1 that was very light and excellent protection against rain and bugs. However, it was too confining and I instead went with a 2-person tent in which I can stretch out and have a little room around me for my stuff.
In those early days I didn't bring a stove (I didn't have one and was too poor to buy one.) I ate tuna fish out of the can, fruit, beef jerkey, and cooked canned food over a campfire - in the can. Now I carry a backpacking stove, a couple of pots, a plate, knife, fork, and spoon, and I'm much happier.
It's kind of like that - you deprive yourself to save weight, but you make choices to bring certain things to enhance your "quality of life."
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Big Blue Toe make's a very good point. I've done the same thing. While I only do weekend tours currently, I started out light and slowly added stuff for that "quality of life" feeling while camping. That's why I now take a 3 cup Moka pot, I decided I wanted hot strong espresso coffee while camping. You adjust as you go, some things you'll decide aren't worth taking and other things you'll add because you wish you had it on a previous trip.
I started out cheap to find out if I was going to like it enough to keep doing it and eventually do the across America dream of mine. Now that I decided I'm good to go with all that camping stuff I've invested in some better mostly mid level stuff as needed because camping does trash stuff. Tents take a lot of abuse, I've talked to many campers that backpack or bike in and they all said their high end tents last 5 years best, so I buy cheaper tents; and a tent expert I once read said the same thing, buy cheaper tents, not the ones under $100 though because they can leak in hard rain. There was a camper I ran into that had a cheap $60 tent and he threw a tarp over it! Cheap and water proof.
But basically you all need to know that a $400 tent is not even close to being twice as good as a $150 tent, and neither is a $300 tent. And real expensive 4 season tents weigh to much to haul around on a bike. But since most of us are not riding are bikes into the frozen tundra of Northern Canada we don't need anything close to that kind of durability.
Again, a question about tarp tents for those tarp experts. I don't pitch a tent close to a tree, because lightening can strike a tree, travel down into the roots of the tree where you have a tent pitched and suddenly you have problems. Sure if your camped in a grove of trees the odds of getting struck are less then next to a solo tree out in the open, but the odds are still there. So what precautions do you take since it sounds like you need a tree or two to rig up the tarp?
I started out cheap to find out if I was going to like it enough to keep doing it and eventually do the across America dream of mine. Now that I decided I'm good to go with all that camping stuff I've invested in some better mostly mid level stuff as needed because camping does trash stuff. Tents take a lot of abuse, I've talked to many campers that backpack or bike in and they all said their high end tents last 5 years best, so I buy cheaper tents; and a tent expert I once read said the same thing, buy cheaper tents, not the ones under $100 though because they can leak in hard rain. There was a camper I ran into that had a cheap $60 tent and he threw a tarp over it! Cheap and water proof.
But basically you all need to know that a $400 tent is not even close to being twice as good as a $150 tent, and neither is a $300 tent. And real expensive 4 season tents weigh to much to haul around on a bike. But since most of us are not riding are bikes into the frozen tundra of Northern Canada we don't need anything close to that kind of durability.
Again, a question about tarp tents for those tarp experts. I don't pitch a tent close to a tree, because lightening can strike a tree, travel down into the roots of the tree where you have a tent pitched and suddenly you have problems. Sure if your camped in a grove of trees the odds of getting struck are less then next to a solo tree out in the open, but the odds are still there. So what precautions do you take since it sounds like you need a tree or two to rig up the tarp?
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Again, a question about tarp tents for those tarp experts. I don't pitch a tent close to a tree, because lightening can strike a tree, travel down into the roots of the tree where you have a tent pitched and suddenly you have problems. Sure if your camped in a grove of trees the odds of getting struck are less then next to a solo tree out in the open, but the odds are still there. So what precautions do you take since it sounds like you need a tree or two to rig up the tarp?
I'm going to have to disagree about the lifespan of the tent though, my tent (or one of them) is going on thirty years old, and it's just starting to show it's age. It did cost an arm and a leg when it was purchase, but it's decades of great service have been more than worth it. It's still lighter than most of the tents on the market right now. The only reason I'm still not using it is because I loaned it out, (big mistake) and the borrower let the fly mildew, so the waterproof coating has begun to wear off. I've done some work to renew it, but there is only so much can be done.
I put off buying a new tent because I had a hard time justifying a new tent that weighed more than a 30 year old one, and one that was practically guaranteed to be less durable.
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I'm going to have to disagree about the lifespan of the tent though, my tent (or one of them) is going on thirty years old, and it's just starting to show it's age. It did cost an arm and a leg when it was purchase, but it's decades of great service have been more than worth it. It's still lighter than most of the tents on the market right now. The only reason I'm still not using it is because I loaned it out, (big mistake) and the borrower let the fly mildew, so the waterproof coating has begun to wear off. I've done some work to renew it, but there is only so much can be done.
Thanks for the tarp info, interesting stuff.
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