after several years I decided I needed to upgrade my old Nashbar bags. I found a set of Jandd Mini mtn. bags on e-bay. These bags are rated at 2600 ci. the old n-bars were 1600 so I new they would be a bit larger? not a chance every thing from the Jandd will fit the n-bar. How can you tell the size without being there. Well any way I have a nice set of Minie men bags that I don't want.