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Old 01-24-13 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TandemTrailDog
I prefer panniers, but also have a trailer.

We're planning a trip this summer with a group of different abilities:
- the strongest rider gets the trailer with almost everything
- the middle rider has one pannier (kitchen) and maybe a tent / sleeping strapped on top of the rack
- the weakest rider is carrying nothing

The group will have an easier time staying together this way, and be able to go further/faster than if everyone had two panniers with something on the rack.
I'd suggest minor changes to this load configuration.

First, make sure the weakest rider is carrying something necessary, even if it's relatively small or light. Otherwise, that rider may feel like he or she is not contributing to the good of the tour.

Second, give the middle rider two panniers, not just one. Load balance is important to me and with one pannier, the load does not balance very well. Stability is better with two. It's okay to have two panniers each half-full.
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Old 01-24-13 | 05:40 PM
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I've used both at different times. In the past, we found the Bob Trailer worked best when we were on self contained camping tours. Before the trailer, my bike was pretty top heavy with the tent and sleeping bag on top of the rear rack. Now that we have the tandem, we will be using a two wheel trailer because our older Bob trailer's fork isn't wide enough for the Mocha. And because there are two of us, we have less pannier "space" making the trailer even more attractive.
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Old 01-25-13 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BobG
Including a single wheel BOB trailer with your travel luggage is simple. Just remove fender, wheel and front yoke section of the trailer and put these items inside the bag. Pack the other soft items normally carried in your bike baggage around them. Lash the bag securely to the disassembled trailer frame. It has then been reduced to a suitcase surrounded by a metal frame . No box required. Pad the protruding dropouts of the trailer with cardboard. Make sure it's weight does not exceed bag limit
Have you managed to avoid oversize baggage charges? If so how many times? If I remember correctly the LxWxH is well over 62 inches even with the wheel and yoke removed. Can someone verify that? If I am correct, I can see it possibly being allowed by some baggage agents, but it doesn't seem like a sure thing. I would expect to get hit with a $50 oversize charge at least some of the time.
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Old 01-25-13 | 10:38 AM
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Pete,

Depending on how high I've stuffed the bag it measures 37"+ 17"+ 12"= 66" at the widest locations including protruding dropouts. Deduct the 8" dropouts and it totals 58". If I compress the bag height down to the top of the 11" high trailer frame that's 65" including dropouts, 57" without.

Maybe I've been lucky. I haven't counted trips but around 15 years worth, most recently OR to VA on Alaska/Delta. Before that on a commuter flight from Portland, ME to Syracuse, NY, and flights from Portland, OR to Boston and Boston to Missoula.

I've recently gone back to panniers to lighten the load and avoid the temptation to carry a gallon of fuel! (See "What have you picked up..." thread).

One can always pack the parts separately with the bicycle to shave a few pounds or reduce volume. I guess my point is that if you're flying with a BOB it is not an inconvenience and probably does not need to be shipped in a box. Packaged as posted above it can be carried to baggage check by it's bag handles with the ease of a suitcase. The agent will likely see it as a large duffel bag with a strange frame around it. If one gets charged extra for a few inches of dropouts so be it. You'd be paying that for sure if you boxed it up.

I haven't read the fine print on every carriers policy. I suppose a ticket agent somewhere might insist on a box but this has never happened to me.

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Depending on how high I've stuffed the bag it measures 36"+ 17"+ 12"= 65" at the widest locations including protruding dropouts. Deduct the 6' dropouts and it totals 59". If I compress the bag height down to the top of the 9" high trailer frame that's 62" including dropouts, 57" without.

Maybe I've been lucky. I haven't counted trips but around 15 years worth, most recently OR to VA on Alaska/Delta. Before that on a commuter flight from Portland, ME to Syracuse, NY, and flights from Portland, OR to Boston and Boston to Missoula.

I've recently gone back to panniers to lighten the load and avoid the temptation to carry a gallon of fuel! (See "What have you picked up..." thread).

One can always pack the parts separately with the bicycle to shave a few pounds or reduce volume. I guess my point is that if you're flying with a BOB it is not an inconvenience and probably does not need to be shipped in a box. Packaged as posted above it can be carried to baggage check by it's bag handles with the ease of a suitcase. The agent will likely see at as a large duffel bag with a strange frame around it. If one gets charged extra for a few inches of dropouts so be it. You'd be paying that for sure if you boxed it up.

I haven't read the fine print on every carriers policy. I suppose a ticket agent somewhere might insist on a box but this has never happened to me.
Thanks for the follow up.
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Old 01-26-13 | 01:22 PM
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I'd suggest minor changes to this load configuration.

First, make sure the weakest rider is carrying something necessary, even if it's relatively small or light. Otherwise, that rider may feel like he or she is not contributing to the good of the tour.

Second, give the middle rider two panniers, not just one. Load balance is important to me and with one pannier, the load does not balance very well. Stability is better with two. It's okay to have two panniers each half-full.
The other two riders have done the GAP/C&O twice, once eastbound and once westbound in 7 days carrying all their gear. This trip will be a GAP/C&O boomerang in 10 days. They are both OK with having little or no gear on their bikes since this ride will surely challenge them.

I've done a lot of commuting using only one pannier and I don't think it affects bike handling that much. YMMV
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