Buy, rent, or borrow a bike???
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Buy, rent, or borrow a bike???
Im planning on making a two week trip down the Pacific Coast Highway at the end of May. Currently I have no Bike, and I dont need to own one at the end of the trip. As I see it, my options are to:
1) buy a used bike, and re-sell at the end of the trip.
2) rent, which will probably cost a pretty penny.
3) find someone crazy enough to let me borrow their bike.
Also, I will be taking a train up to San Francisco from LA, and then starting my trip.
Any advice/ recommendations?
1) buy a used bike, and re-sell at the end of the trip.
2) rent, which will probably cost a pretty penny.
3) find someone crazy enough to let me borrow their bike.
Also, I will be taking a train up to San Francisco from LA, and then starting my trip.
Any advice/ recommendations?
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Buy used and resell is your best option.
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I think you are making a huge mistake. How much have you ridden before? Do you know what it is like to ride long distances with gear? While the PCH might be on the coast, it is far from flat. It has some very steep climbs. There are a number of sections where you will encounter traffic and you need to have at least some experience dealing with that. There are curves, steep descents with places you can easily launch yourself over a cliff side if you don't have bicycle handling experience with gear.
Even if you are young and it top physical condition, you will still need at least some training on a bicycle. Before you go on this long adventure, I suggest you buy a bike and for for a weekend trip or two with gear, before committing to the expense of a PCH tour.
I don't want to discourage you from making this tour. What I do want to do is encourage you to do it well prepared.
Even if you are young and it top physical condition, you will still need at least some training on a bicycle. Before you go on this long adventure, I suggest you buy a bike and for for a weekend trip or two with gear, before committing to the expense of a PCH tour.
I don't want to discourage you from making this tour. What I do want to do is encourage you to do it well prepared.
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You can rent cars , but not fully outfitted touring bikes, with all the gear and bags.
But if you book with a fully catered touring company they will rent you the bike with the package .
Its the total opposite of inexpensive and self contained touring.
But if you book with a fully catered touring company they will rent you the bike with the package .
Its the total opposite of inexpensive and self contained touring.
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Whatever you choose make sure you have a triple rings on the crank. This is not an option but a necessity. I walked up a mountain pass on my first trip. Don't make that mistake. I'm sure this route has some very steep grades. Hopefully, you can get a bike with a 22 or 24 tooth ring.
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You will need a lot of saddle time before you'll be ready to tour with gear. I trained for my French tour despite being a fairly fit cyclist, and was very glad I did! Going up hills with all of that weight is a game-changer, and you will additionally need lots of quality time in the very saddle you'll be touring with. Chafing ain't no joke.
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O.k. So summarizing, the advice is:
- Buy a used bike with a triple and 22 or 24T granny gear that you start training on now.
Actually, that is good advice.
- Buy a used bike with a triple and 22 or 24T granny gear that you start training on now.
Actually, that is good advice.
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Don't spoil your trip with a bike that A. doesn't fit well, B. is geared too high, and C. isn't in top mechanical condition.
Used is just fine long as you can find the right one. Or even a new Trek fx 7.1, 2, 3. Reasonably priced, comfortable, easy resale. Who knows. You may become a touring addict like many of us on here.
Visit local bike shops to get ideas.
Used is just fine long as you can find the right one. Or even a new Trek fx 7.1, 2, 3. Reasonably priced, comfortable, easy resale. Who knows. You may become a touring addict like many of us on here.
Visit local bike shops to get ideas.
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I think you are making a huge mistake. How much have you ridden before? Do you know what it is like to ride long distances with gear? While the PCH might be on the coast, it is far from flat. It has some very steep climbs. There are a number of sections where you will encounter traffic and you need to have at least some experience dealing with that. There are curves, steep descents with places you can easily launch yourself over a cliff side if you don't have bicycle handling experience with gear.
Even if you are young and it top physical condition, you will still need at least some training on a bicycle.
Even if you are young and it top physical condition, you will still need at least some training on a bicycle.
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Just curious ... if you have no bicycle now, and you are planning to ride one for 2 weeks in relatively challenging terrain ... how do you intend to train for this adventure? Are you regularly riding spin bikes?
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Don't be discouraged by all the naysayers. Doing that trip without training is quite doable. Just go your speed and you'll be fine. I just did Monterey, CA to south LA a few of weeks ago. That's 400 miles in six days on a 6-speed folding bike with camping gear and no prior training.
Unfortunately I don't have much input to your decision. You'll need to check out what's available to buy, rent and borrow. From there you can make a decision based on money and usability of the bicycle.
BTW, I bought the folding bike exclusively for such adventures. The cost is now at ~$200/day thanks to three great trips. Soon it won't seem such a crazy idea having spend so much money on it.
Unfortunately I don't have much input to your decision. You'll need to check out what's available to buy, rent and borrow. From there you can make a decision based on money and usability of the bicycle.
BTW, I bought the folding bike exclusively for such adventures. The cost is now at ~$200/day thanks to three great trips. Soon it won't seem such a crazy idea having spend so much money on it.
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Don't be discouraged by all the naysayers. Doing that trip without training is quite doable. Just go your speed and you'll be fine. I just did Monterey, CA to south LA a few of weeks ago. That's 400 miles in six days on a 6-speed folding bike with camping gear and no prior training.
Unfortunately I don't have much input to your decision. You'll need to check out what's available to buy, rent and borrow. From there you can make a decision based on money and usability of the bicycle.
BTW, I bought the folding bike exclusively for such adventures. The cost is now at ~$200/day thanks to three great trips. Soon it won't seem such a crazy idea having spend so much money on it.
Unfortunately I don't have much input to your decision. You'll need to check out what's available to buy, rent and borrow. From there you can make a decision based on money and usability of the bicycle.
BTW, I bought the folding bike exclusively for such adventures. The cost is now at ~$200/day thanks to three great trips. Soon it won't seem such a crazy idea having spend so much money on it.
You were lucky and just as foolhardy as the op.
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Riding a bicycle isn't rocket science. Neither is bicycle touring. I really don't see why I was foolhardy or lucky.
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It took me 30 days of riding before my butt didn't hurt in the saddle when I first started riding after years off the bike. You might have to factor something like that in. A comfortable saddle is one of your major purchasing concerns. Some need a little breaking in (your butt or the saddle (sometimes I can't figure out which)).
Riding yourself into shape is doable, but if you're an older guy, you have no idea how your ligaments are going to respond to the ride. I'd suggest that you'll need to be disciplined and hold yourself way back at the beginning of the ride. The day you get hurt can be a day or two before the day you feel the pain.
If your bike fit sucks, you might get knee pain or nerve discomfort in your hand. A decently fitting bike is an amazingly precious commodity. There is an absurd amount of science and analysis devoted to a good bike fit.
Be emotionally prepared to blow up the ride if you have unanticipated physical issues. No sense aggravating an injury because you "have to" finish the tour.
Riding yourself into shape is doable, but if you're an older guy, you have no idea how your ligaments are going to respond to the ride. I'd suggest that you'll need to be disciplined and hold yourself way back at the beginning of the ride. The day you get hurt can be a day or two before the day you feel the pain.
If your bike fit sucks, you might get knee pain or nerve discomfort in your hand. A decently fitting bike is an amazingly precious commodity. There is an absurd amount of science and analysis devoted to a good bike fit.
Be emotionally prepared to blow up the ride if you have unanticipated physical issues. No sense aggravating an injury because you "have to" finish the tour.
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In particular, the section between Pfeiffer Big Sur State Park and San Simeon is about 70 miles and, according to my Garmin Edge, requires 4700 feet of elevation gain. If you're out of shape and end up pushing your bike up every hill, it's going to be very difficult to cover that ground in a single day. You're going to have similar problems if your butt is on fire after 2-3 hours of riding, because you haven't spent any time in the saddle. Camping and lodging options are fairly limited on that section of the coast, especially around the time when the OP will be traveling.
So, the options are either: 1) make sure you have the necessary conditioning to cover the terrain in the time required, or 2) develop a "grand plan" so you know which of the limited lodging options are going to work if you can't make the distance.
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Riding yourself into shape is doable, but if you're an older guy, you have no idea how your ligaments are going to respond to the ride. I'd suggest that you'll need to be disciplined and hold yourself way back at the beginning of the ride. The day you get hurt can be a day or two before the day you feel the pain.
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Im planning on making a two week trip down the Pacific Coast Highway at the end of May. Currently I have no Bike, and I dont need to own one at the end of the trip. As I see it, my options are to:
1) buy a used bike, and re-sell at the end of the trip.
2) rent, which will probably cost a pretty penny.
3) find someone crazy enough to let me borrow their bike.
Also, I will be taking a train up to San Francisco from LA, and then starting my trip.
Any advice/ recommendations?
1) buy a used bike, and re-sell at the end of the trip.
2) rent, which will probably cost a pretty penny.
3) find someone crazy enough to let me borrow their bike.
Also, I will be taking a train up to San Francisco from LA, and then starting my trip.
Any advice/ recommendations?
I have lived in the Bay Area and toured up and down the coast. It's not hard riding. The climbs are nowhere near what they are in the Sierras. The temperatures and weather are benign, and it's beautiful. One of the best routes in the entire world. You couldn't have chosen better.
Do some research on saddle sore issues and tissue ischemia. Listen to the MDs who are also serious cyclists. A gel saddle or saddle cover, and good padded or gel bike shorts can help a lot, especially for those without a hardened posterior. Long hours in the saddle for two or three or more days will bring most beginners some serious saddle issues and pain if they don't prepare for it with the right setup. It is just not the same as short rides. The issues get much more serious.
There are bike coops and alternative types in and around SF who might be able to set you up with something, or refer you to someone who can. Try The Missing Link in Berkeley if they are still going. See what they suggest and who else they might recommend. There are also some used bike shops and clubs that might be able to help.
Or you can try the same sort of thing in SoCal, take the bike on the train and return it when you get back. If I were down there and someone offered a deposit and small contribution for using the bike and gear for a couple of weeks, and the person seemed reasonably trustworthy, I would do it. And you might be able to find some decent folks in a club somewhere who might be happy to be of help. Some people are just naturally that way. Some people are happy to share and help out.
There are online resources that might help you connect with the right persons.
If you are in reasonably good shape you should be fine. Give yourself plenty of time and don't push harder than what is a good sustainable pace for you. Smell the roses. Enjoy the blue skies and the sea.
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The Xtracyle guys have a great network of alternative connections and might even be able to set you up with something directly. If you approach them well and are able to put a full refundable deposit on something, and make it clear that it is just two weeks, it might be worth a try. If you can talk to Ross directly, he is pretty good with these sorts of things and alternatives.
You might also try running it by someone at Rivendell and see if they have any good suggestions. Just describe what you are doing and see if they have any ideas.
You might also try running it by someone at Rivendell and see if they have any good suggestions. Just describe what you are doing and see if they have any ideas.
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Buying used and reselling is a good option if you can find a good bike that fits. Maybe put up a wanted ad on craigslist. Or you could put up a couple, including rental or loaner wanted.
And also check to see what is listed for sale.
You could try for and be open to multiple possibilities, and see which one or ones pan out.
Also, keeping the load simple and light will help with carrying it on the bike, and make the riding more pleasant.
IntenseAngler has some excellent youtube tutorials. If you enter 'IntenseAngler super ultralite,' he shows what he packs when going very light. If you add 'backpacking trip' to those words, in the youtube.com searchbox, he talks about some of the benefits of keeping it light, in the few minutes preceding the 05:30 mark.
He's a good, helpful person, and has a lot to share.
And also check to see what is listed for sale.
You could try for and be open to multiple possibilities, and see which one or ones pan out.
Also, keeping the load simple and light will help with carrying it on the bike, and make the riding more pleasant.
IntenseAngler has some excellent youtube tutorials. If you enter 'IntenseAngler super ultralite,' he shows what he packs when going very light. If you add 'backpacking trip' to those words, in the youtube.com searchbox, he talks about some of the benefits of keeping it light, in the few minutes preceding the 05:30 mark.
He's a good, helpful person, and has a lot to share.
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The OP doesn't give his age, or an indication of his fitness level, but I firmly believe that proper perparation will improve his trip.
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