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Old 08-13-13, 04:30 AM
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Beer anyone at the end of the day?

This sort of looks interesting ... a lightweight substitute for the red wine Has anyone actually tried it?

Beer concentrate + portable carbonator = a long ahhhh at the end of the day?



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So, it's some sort-of beer with grain alcohol added to it.

Seems like one might have a drinking problem if one found this that compelling.

How do you make it cold?

It's not like there are no opportunities to buy beer when touring (or so I've heard). I bet it's expensive too.

It makes a tiny bit more sense for backpacking. But it's extra weight.

A solution looking for a problem.

Bizarre.
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Meeting people in random bars is half the fun of touring!
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Meeting people in random bars is half the fun of touring!

And bringing my pocket Mandolin + pub session to sit in with, .. I linger, in some towns, longer..


maybe Andrew does have more 'middle of nowhere' east of Perth .. AFAIK Beer concentrate is called Whiskey..

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Originally Posted by njkayaker
So, it's some sort-of beer with grain alcohol added to it.

Seems like one might have a drinking problem if one found this that compelling.

How do you make it cold?

It's not like there are no opportunities to buy beer when touring (or so I've heard). I bet it's expensive too.

It makes a tiny bit more sense for backpacking. But it's extra weight.

A solution looking for a problem.

Bizarre.
Where did you get the grain alchohol bit from? Their site doesn't claim that. It's some weird limited water fermentation process, then you add (more) water and carbonation.
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You know they make these...
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While I appreciate the idea, it seems to me that a much more reliable approach on a bicycle would be to grab a six-pack at the last gas station you pass through. I find at the end of the long day I don't really want a fancy beer anyways... Something fizzy, light, and cheap that I can drink 6 of tends to hit the spot.
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friend of mine slipped a clothing iron into his friends backpack before a day hike and he revealed it only when they got to the top. pretty funny (& cruel) I thought. now if were some kind of alcoholic gizmo, it's might have actually been fun!
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Originally Posted by RaleighSport
You know they make these...
I feel like an idiot...sort of. I drink wine whenever I can while touring. During Day 1 of a three-day this past spring, the only liquor store was miles from the campground. It was a huge store but I totally forgot about the bag/box-o-wine option. Ended up carrying a 1.5L bottle up what turned out to be a climb with some very nasty sections. Got to remember the non-glass options next time.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I feel like an idiot...sort of. I drink wine whenever I can while touring. During Day 1 of a three-day this past spring, the only liquor store was miles from the campground. It was a huge store but I totally forgot about the bag/box-o-wine option. Ended up carrying a 1.5L bottle up what turned out to be a climb with some very nasty sections. Got to remember the non-glass options next time.
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If the store is close to camp, I'll grab a six pack; if it's far, that's what the rum is for. Captain Morgan even comes in nice plastic bottles.
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Originally Posted by squegeeboo
Where did you get the grain alchohol bit from? Their site doesn't claim that. It's some weird limited water fermentation process, then you add (more) water and carbonation.
It's vague. I could be wrong.

Maybe, he's using some sort of freeze distillation.

https://www.patsbcb.com/hybrid-brewing-technology

Our beer is highly concentrated which means that it has a high percentage of alcohol (like Vodka, whiskey, or other distilled spirits). However, when you add water and carbonation to it… it becomes good old beer. So… from one minute to the next we’re not sure what to call it. Is it a distilled spirit? Is it beer? Is it both? It’s a Hybrid!
Huh?

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People have been trying to brew beer with a high alcohol content for centuries. I'm somewhat skeptical that this one guy managed to do it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_beverage

Most yeasts cannot reproduce when the concentration of alcohol is higher than about 18%, so that is the practical limit for the strength of fermented beverages such as wine, beer, and sake. However, some strains of yeast have been developed that can reproduce in solutions of up to 25% ABV

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^ I'm guessing it's not just fermented to the high alcohol concentration as-is, but rather he added some crap and some alcohol together that ends up tasting like "good beer" when you add some water and carbonate it. As you pointed out, there are yeast strains that manage around 20% alcohol, but I think that's pretty much the max area you can get up to just by fermenting yeast. This is probably some syrupy, malty flavored crap, some hard/distilled alcohol, and a handful of various other flavorings that form the concentrate.

I'll just stop at the local gas station when I feel like having a couple beers that night. I normally prefer good beer, or at least something darker, but for some reason Miller High Life seems to hit the spot just fine when out riding and camping. They carry that pretty much anywhere, so I'm good to go.
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That's not beer. That's an alcoholic beverage that undoubtedly tastes not entirely unlike beer.

If I need a beer or two, I'll bring them along in panniers, or buy them at the local pub.

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Great - so now all we gotta do is figure out some way to carry ice cold water or keep mugs frozen and we can gave a cold beer anywhere! Didn't realize beer was that hard to find - here in Quebec even the corner stores sell it till 11:00PM.
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Camp cocktails- Jim Beam and Crystal lite lemonade.
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I've only recently begun to follow many doctors advice and have a bottle or two of wine before bed. Really helps with the falling asleep thing.
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Can't say much for the product, but as for drinking and touring this thread is superbly quotable. I'm going to make some quick quotes and comments. Hopefully entertaining.

Originally Posted by njkayaker
So, it's some sort-of beer with grain alcohol added to it.

Seems like one might have a drinking problem if one found this that compelling.
Can you say: "My drinking habit has a bicycle touring problem."

It definitely is not so much a beer as a beer-like substance, but let's not insult the character of our bicycle touring breatheren who have not our well cultivated taste for spirits.

(Cracks open a Natty Ice.)
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Originally Posted by AaronSpringer
Meeting people in random bars is half the fun of touring!
Amen!
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Wow, who knew cycle touring was so much like hunting, an opportunity to get smashed in camp. Alcohol is a poison the body needs to dispose of through the liver. I guess if one has a built in need... But for me, I have tried to "relax" at the end of the day, and found water was more needed by my body.
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^ Sounds like maybe you need to hydrate better while riding. In fact, it's widely recognized in the medical community that a beer or glass of wine, in moderation, can have some health benefits. I doubt you'll find the same support for lack of proper hydration anywhere. Drink up, in whatever way suits your needs best.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
And bringing my pocket Mandolin + pub session to sit in with, .. I linger, in some towns, longer..


maybe Andrew does have more 'middle of nowhere' east of Perth .. AFAIK Beer concentrate is called Whiskey..
think i asked you before sorry if i did but have you a link to that mandolin you carry.
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The Leo Mandolin company of Denver Colorado is no longer in business , they folded before the WWW came into common use.

search "pocket Mandolins"
here is a image I found of one of the traditional lute back pocket instruments, Id describe the body outline similar..

mine inlay edge, none, headstock minimal-ized . top and back flat, mahogany.. scale 13", over all 20"


https://antebelluminstruments.blogspo...-mandolin.html

I found an old '83 print ad in the folio, mandolin world news; V vii n.3 .. Dix Bruce was the editor ,
I think , he still has reprints . https://www.musixnow.com/

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Originally Posted by MassiveD
Wow, who knew cycle touring was so much like hunting, an opportunity to get smashed in camp. Alcohol is a poison the body needs to dispose of through the liver. I guess if one has a built in need... But for me, I have tried to "relax" at the end of the day, and found water was more needed by my body.
I've also tried "relaxing" at the end of the day by socializing with alcoholic drinks, but found it caused discomfort while riding the next morning, especially with wine. I suppose if you're in no hurry to get up, and just cruise along, you wouldn't suffer from headaches and dehyration associated to the alcohol.
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